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Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:36 pm
by tgk

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:09 pm
by palmer eldritch


damn nice deep cut

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:14 pm
by palmer eldritch
in some ways the ACORN VIDEO CONTROVERSY was kind of like a pioneer event in the new (post-GWB) era of Republicanism

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:16 pm
by Feech La Manna
It was definitely one of the stupidest recent chapters of our glorious political history

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:38 pm
by tgk
god damn that roll call is some shameful shameful shit and disqualifying for a 2020 candidate imo. proud of durbin being one of the only seven (incl. bernie and KG) nays to that blatant republican sham.

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:45 pm
by tgk
the roll call also captures the brief madness that was senator roland burris and the fallout of blago getting caught selling obamas senate seat


On December 30, 2008, Governor Blagojevich announced that he was naming Burris to the seat. Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White registered the appointment in the official records of Illinois on December 31, 2008. However, White declined to sign the Senate's certification form.[22]

On January 5, 2009, Secretary of the United States Senate Nancy Erickson rejected Burris's certificate of appointment to the Senate as invalid. Erickson cited Senate Rule 2 as the reason for the rejection.[23] Because White had refused to sign the certificate, Erickson concluded in her findings that the certificate did not conform to Senate Rule 2.[23] Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Illinois's senior Senator Dick Durbin agreed with Erickson that the Senate rule required the secretary of state's signature.[24]

Reid initially said that the Senate would not seat Burris,[25] citing Article I, Section 5 of the United States Constitution, which states that "Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members." Reid and other senators had previously stated, before Burris was in contention, that they would use Article I authority against any appointment by Blagojevich.[26] The Senate also could have referred the appointment to the Senate Rules Committee, thus stalling it until Blagojevich's status was settled.[27] Some Democrats, including the chairwoman of the Senate Rules Committee, Dianne Feinstein, and the Congressional Black Caucus, spoke out in favor of Burris being seated.[28][29]

Burris appeared in Washington at the January Congressional swearing-in ceremony (January 6) to claim his seat, but was denied entry into the Senate chambers.[24] Burris and his lawyers insisted that Burris was "now the junior senator from the state of Illinois,"[30] although technically he was not a senator and could not be one until being administered the oath of office.[31]

On January 9, 2009, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled that the appointment only required the signature of the governor and the secretary of state's signature is not required to make the appointment valid. It also said Illinois is not obligated to use, and hence its Secretary of State is not required to sign, the Senate's "recommended" certification form.[22][32] The State Supreme Court noted that a different form was available: White had already registered the appointment in Illinois's official records, and Illinois law requires the Secretary of State to provide a certified copy, with signature and seal, of any of the state's official records to anyone willing to pay the fee. It suggested that Burris simply obtain a certified copy of the appointment registration.[22] In its Burris v. White ruling the State Supreme Court not only declared that the form of certificate contained in rule II of the Standing Rules of the United States Senate was, according to its own terms, only a recommended form but it further remarked that "no explanation has been given as to how any rule of the Senate, whether it be formal or merely a matter of tradition, could supersede the authority to fill vacancies conferred on the states by the federal constitution".[22] Following the ruling, White provided Burris with a certified copy of the appointment's registration, and Burris delivered that copy, bearing the State Seal, to the Secretary of the Senate.[33] On January 12, 2009, after the Secretary of the Senate announced that she and the Senate Parliamentarian deemed Burris's new credentials valid, Senate leaders decided to seat Burris.[34] Burris was sworn in by Vice President Dick Cheney on January 15, 2009.[35][36][37]

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:08 pm
by palmer eldritch
it's a real time capsule roll call. Specter (D-PA) !

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:22 pm
by delgriffith
ACORN being defunded is one of the worst things to happen in the past 10 years.

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:00 am
by coop

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 am
by tgk
god damn look at those biden numbers

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 am
by alaska
delgriffith wrote:ACORN being defunded is one of the worst things to happen in the past 10 years.


yeah

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:05 am
by alaska
sanders also has second-highest favorables, a good reminder that he is the best candidate

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:05 am
by alaska
:rixx:

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:06 am
by a falsetto child
How the fuck are 72% of Democrats unfamiliar with Julian Castro?

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:12 am
by shark week
Castro's only held elected office in the city of San Antonio

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:13 am
by Feech La Manna
44% of that 72% respond to a picture of Julian Castro with "oh, that guy"

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:19 am
by hyperbole man
dang even marist misspells cory's name

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:23 am
by jefe górgory
Robo-Chachi wrote:How the fuck are 72% of Democrats unfamiliar with Julian Castro?

Are you making a joke

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:26 am
by a falsetto child
No, I guess I assumed more than 30% of Democrats would be familiar with the guy who ran HUD for several years under Obama.

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:28 am
by a falsetto child
I’m not expecting people to rattle of his resume. Just to be able to say, “Yeah, I know who that guy is.”

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:29 am
by delgriffith
He gave the keynote DNC speech in 2012 (which people around him tried to sell as a "passing of the torch" moment) and most people within his own party have no idea who he is, brutal. Just pack it up dude.

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:31 am
by delgriffith
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/julian-castros-5-compelling-lines-080709

San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro’s keynote speech Tuesday night at the Democratic National Convention might not generate the buzz of President Barack Obama’s 2004 keynote, but it still electrified the Charlotte crowd.

Castro, 37, the youngest mayor of the 50 largest cities in the nation, delivered these notable lines:

1. “First they called it ‘trickle-down.’ Then ‘supply-side.’ Now it’s ‘Romney-Ryan.’ Or is it ‘Ryan-Romney?’”


Absolutely savage

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:32 am
by Feech La Manna
I remember in 2012 when we were all in the tank for every Democrat and were going nuts over every other DNC speech we all still thought he sucked that night

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:37 am
by clouds
tgk wrote:


reps went by the grills and downed the burgs and the tweets they made powered the memes of the teens

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:38 am
by alaska
Infinite Jost wrote:sherrod brown is a wife beater and hopefully he strokes out soon


didn't know that. puke

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:41 am
by tgk
delgriffith wrote:Now it’s ‘Romney-Ryan.’ Or is it ‘Ryan-Romney?’”





Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:52 am
by ecto

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:54 am
by Feech La Manna
The Onion definitely has to answer for this

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:55 am
by ecto
romney is 19 points underwater so thats cool

Re: The 2020 Primary

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:58 am
by ecto
i too believe biden will get chokeslammed to hell through a table