Jesus fucking Christ, Morrissey

by **Riverchrist** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:40 pm

Somehow this is also Billy Corgan's fault.

by **needanap** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:59 pm

new morrissey tees (you can keep viva hate and a few others with fitting titles):

- kill uncle phil
- our millwall
- ̶o̶p̶e̶l̶vauxhall and i
- rightie grammar

by **Kenny** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:47 pm

by **odilon redon** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:16 pm

pana wrote:

dude is pathetic

by **needanap** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:21 pm

he's basically proof you can turn into hitler even if people do take your art seriously

by **light rail coyote** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:22 pm

every update in this thread is just further proof that r.e.m. is the superior band and now i will close this thread and never open it again

by **an otter** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:37 pm

Jesus fucking Christ, Morrissey

by **southpaw** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:42 pm

pana wrote:he's basically proof you can turn into hitler even if people do take your art seriously

by **speakers** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:12 pm

Beautiful Jugdish wrote:alright fine im retiring the moz shirt

hero

by **saranclaps** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:37 pm

just going to start bragging that i never got into moz or the smiths

Website · by **Cronos** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:59 pm

Morrissey finally found a cross worthy of him dying on.

by **draw** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:10 pm

Those lyrics suck

by **Real Real Real** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:20 pm

"If borders are such terrible things then why did they ever exist in the first place? Borders bring order."

and people ask "why do you hate on everything?" Luckily, I don't believe in order, so I don't feel like I deserve this having had so much attachment to so much of his oeuvre through time.

Website · by **Cronos** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:21 pm

Ezra pound sucks too while we're at it.

by **hiddenicon** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:39 pm

hey... fella who gave me grief for preferring Belle and Sebastian to The Smiths back in 1997. eat shit.

Website · by **Cronos** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:45 pm

hiddenicon wrote:hey... fella who gave me grief for preferring Belle and Sebastian to The Smiths back in 1997. eat shit.

Bad news, the last Belle and Sebastian album was called Iron Cross and about a heroic(their words) brigade of World War II veterans.

by **Kevin McCallister** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:28 pm

edit: nvm

by **brian dennehy fan** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:57 pm

glad i never got that smiths tattoo

by **Beautiful Jugdish** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:54 pm

the smiths are a phenomenal band and i feel zero remorse supporting them even as morrissey slides into dementia

by **Beautiful Jugdish** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:54 pm

the smiths are in fact the greatest band of all time and i am not taking questions at this juncture, thank you.

by **speakers** » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:43 pm

hero status revoked

by **avenue** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:41 pm

It's really good and also very encouraging to see Nick Cave giving a masterclass in white privilege all in defence of fucking Morrissey.

by **blurst of times** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:56 pm

light rail coyote wrote:every update in this thread is just further proof that r.e.m. is the superior band and now i will close this thread and never open it again

My message to any Smiths fans feeling betrayed by Morrissey is to join us in the REM pool. Water's fine!

by **odilon redon** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:01 pm

all of these ppl are pseudo intellectuals with insane amounts of ego and self-regard resulting in total myopia, which are pretty much required traits for becoming a pop star, no one should expect their musical talent to translate in any single other area of intelligence

by **Ersaph** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:03 pm

Question for Smiths fan: What was the earliest incident of Morrissey expressing an explicitly racist viewpoint?

by **avenue** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:25 pm

The song “Bengali in platforms” > flying the Union Jack at Madstock > “the Chinese are a subspecies”

by **Reliable Tradesman** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:33 pm

avenue wrote:It's really good and also very encouraging to see Nick Cave giving a masterclass in white privilege all in defence of fucking Morrissey.

I saw him at a Q & A/solo concert thing earlier this year and some kid asked a wholesome question about how Nick Cave felt about the recent metoo movement, and how fans should deal with their musical idols turning into horrible people.

Nick Cave responded aggressively about how he couldn't think of one example in the music industry and repeatedly asked the kid to provide examples. The kid was clearly caught off guard and was forced to rollback his question by Cave, who then left the stage, cutting the show short by 30 minutes or so.

I assume Cave made a logic leap and thought the kid was referencing his son Jethro who bashed his girlfriend & then threatened to kill her. But I left that gig thinking Cave was a fucking muppet.

by **Frank** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:43 pm

It’d hurt way more to lose Cave but I’m ready.

by **badhat** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:16 pm

Ersaph wrote:Question for Smiths fan: What was the earliest incident of Morrissey expressing an explicitly racist viewpoint?

i used to think it was "bengali in platforms" but it turns out it goes back further than that

In 1984 Morrissey famously said "all reggae is vile" in what may seem an innocent comment in isolation, yet it takes a more sinister form when considered amongst his consistent diatribe of bigotry. For example, a biography of the early formation of The Nosebleeds points out that around the same time Morrissey declared, "I don't hate Pakistanis, but I dislike them immensely." There is no nuance to be examined there. Morrissey had a brief punk career before stepping out with The Smiths, which included a band called Slaughter and the Dogs, which gathered a number of skinhead and suedehead fans.

by **Riverchrist** » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:19 pm

Also he danced his way out of the womb and promptly announced "rap is crap."

Jesus fucking Christ, Morrissey

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