Succession (HBO)

Health insurance rip off lying FDA big bankers buying
Fake computer crashes dining
Cloning while they're multiplying
Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson
Courtney Love, and Marilyn Manson
You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
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Postby Merciel » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:16 am

Franco wrote:[I think it was an acceptable outcome that was encouraged to the point of it being a dare.


Yeah, this is where I come out on it too.

We've seen how Logan reacts when he's genuinely surprised and angered by a backstab, and that was definitely not it.

But I also don't think he had like a Cunning Master Plan in place from the get-go. This was just a possible eventuality that he saw coming and was prepared to encourage, but couldn't 100% count on.
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Postby Barthes Starr » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:51 am

defective wrote:Ya know, a lot of people are saying I was Deadcatting.


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Postby -1 baby... :( » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:45 pm

Check please!!
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Postby blurst of times » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:00 pm

just finished season one the other night. "you're my number one boy"Toggle Spoiler was a real gut punch. that was probably the most uncomfortable tv wedding episode to watch since the peep show wedding episode, which makes sense
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Postby thrang » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:48 pm

This is my favorite show in some time.

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Postby tgk » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:53 pm

It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch
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Postby number none » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:55 pm

tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason
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Postby The Emperor's Son » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:01 pm

number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason

weird

all americans want to watch is rich people
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Postby blurst of times » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:04 pm

i think my hesitance to start watching this show was less that it was about rich people and more that it just seemed kinda maudlin. like downton abbey or something but modern and american. as soon as i watched the pilot i realized how funny it was
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Postby Bernie » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:05 pm

nn lives in Ireland so maybe that's why

Most americans don't want the actual truth that rich people are destroying the world though
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Postby The Emperor's Son » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:08 pm

most certainly wouldn't take that away

logan roy is job creating badass
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Postby number none » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:08 pm

I guess it doesn't really have an easily explainable hook in the way a lot of popular prestige shows do
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Postby The Emperor's Son » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:09 pm

he breaks a few eggs to make an omelette

etc.
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Postby Bernie » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:10 pm

When I've attempted to explain that some of the characters are loosely based on real life members of the Murdoch, Mercer, and Koch families that seems to interest some people. Mostly older liberals like my in-laws.
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Postby high bias » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm

the commercials for the show make it look like some dumb as rocks showtime thing tbh
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Postby The Emperor's Son » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm

number none wrote:I guess it doesn't really have an easily explainable hook in the way a lot of popular prestige shows do

it's about controlling an empire and being insanely rich
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Postby Cone » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:17 pm

I’ve been selling it as “corporate Game of Thrones with compelling characters”
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Postby badhat » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:26 pm

its about how the superrich are bred and conditioned to be toxic monsters and arent "just like us" and what that means for the world.

and also its dynasty for uppermiddlebrow people
There’s no path to a satisfying conclusion at this point.
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Postby mini » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:28 pm

if you think it's tough to convince people to watch this show now, imagine how i felt around this time last year
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Postby blab » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:30 pm

tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


i'm like 5 episodes away from finishing sopranos. gunna need a new show. is this one it??
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Postby blab » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:30 pm

i'm an intellectual so if the show is smart that is okay w me
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Postby tgk » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 pm

one friend didn't want to watch it because they thought it was just a dumb a&e show like billions, and why should we be watching a show about billionaires in this day and age.

one stopped watching because he couldn't take the "cringy" nature of it

my mother was the most baffling one. she said she stopped because she "didn't have anyone to root for", i reminded her that its from the guy who worked on in the thick of it, in the loop, and veep and she was like "i love those shows!" and i go "but there was no one to root for on those shows either" and she goes "well, those were comedies". i tried to convince her that in its own way, succession is just as funny as those shows you just need some time to adjust.
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Postby tgk » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:05 pm

it kinda feels a little like a spiritual successor to mad men, gorgeous, meticulous with attention to detail, and pretty much every character is under enormous pressure and constantly miserable. also like mad men you had a cast with basically zero star power that, by season 2 has sent all these actors skyrocketing (def here for the alan ruck renaissance)
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Postby scrambled » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:50 pm

ok i only read the last two posts in fear of spoilers. finally dipped my toe in (i was like that first friend of tgk's that thought it would be like billions nonsense). just started season 1 tonight and now i'm obsessed :roll: - i feel like i read some random tweet reference that the start of season 1 is rough so i'm excited to see the show get even better.
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Postby LloydChristmas » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 am

number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


Before I started it, I assumed it was gonna be like Suits or Billions or something.... and only gave it a go because of the near universal praise I was seeing online. I was very pleasantly surprised.

The best thing I think I can do to get other people to watch it is mention that the creator was also responsible for Peep Show.
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Postby Franco » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:22 am

Billions rules
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Postby aububs » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:28 am

billions is funny shit. it's like succession but crap. love it.
no buddy not really
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Postby RIXX » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:00 am

number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


I was gonna post this a couple days ago

it's baffling to me but yeah, all of my friends that have watched the same canon golden age shows and share my tastes and opinions..they just won't give it a shot. it's actually infuriating lol
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Postby Darlene » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:11 am

I really enjoy Billions but mostly because I love Paul Giamatti.

I've been thinking a lot lately that in a strange way this show reminds me of Barry Lyndon. Like the constant half assed happy accidents and inversely the shitty luck, the comedic tone, the weird tragedy and pacing as well as the inevitable miserableness of all the horrible rich people at the end doing anything to stay in control.
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Postby Darlene » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 am

RIXX wrote:
number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


I was gonna post this a couple days ago

it's baffling to me but yeah, all of my friends that have watched the same canon golden age shows and share my tastes and opinions..they just won't give it a shot. it's actually infuriating lol


And yes oh my god, thankfully I've found a handful of dedicated superfans, but like I was getting legitimately angry at a friend who refused to be bothered with it for the whole season and I know they would love it and really wanted them to catch up so we could enjoy the finale together and its like oh my god you are missing the television event of the fucking decade.
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