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Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:16 am
by Merciel
Franco wrote:[I think it was an acceptable outcome that was encouraged to the point of it being a dare.


Yeah, this is where I come out on it too.

We've seen how Logan reacts when he's genuinely surprised and angered by a backstab, and that was definitely not it.

But I also don't think he had like a Cunning Master Plan in place from the get-go. This was just a possible eventuality that he saw coming and was prepared to encourage, but couldn't 100% count on.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:51 am
by Barthes Starr
defective wrote:Ya know, a lot of people are saying I was Deadcatting.


underrated line

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:45 pm
by -1 baby... :(

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:00 pm
by blurst of times
just finished season one the other night. "you're my number one boy"Toggle Spoiler was a real gut punch. that was probably the most uncomfortable tv wedding episode to watch since the peep show wedding episode, which makes sense

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:48 pm
by thrang
This is my favorite show in some time.

“You’re widely known as a horrible person.”

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:53 pm
by tgk
It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:55 pm
by number none
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:01 pm
by The Emperor's Son
number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason

weird

all americans want to watch is rich people

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:04 pm
by blurst of times
i think my hesitance to start watching this show was less that it was about rich people and more that it just seemed kinda maudlin. like downton abbey or something but modern and american. as soon as i watched the pilot i realized how funny it was

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:05 pm
by Bernie
nn lives in Ireland so maybe that's why

Most americans don't want the actual truth that rich people are destroying the world though

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:08 pm
by The Emperor's Son
most certainly wouldn't take that away

logan roy is job creating badass

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:08 pm
by number none
I guess it doesn't really have an easily explainable hook in the way a lot of popular prestige shows do

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:09 pm
by The Emperor's Son
he breaks a few eggs to make an omelette

etc.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:10 pm
by Bernie
When I've attempted to explain that some of the characters are loosely based on real life members of the Murdoch, Mercer, and Koch families that seems to interest some people. Mostly older liberals like my in-laws.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm
by high bias
the commercials for the show make it look like some dumb as rocks showtime thing tbh

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:12 pm
by The Emperor's Son
number none wrote:I guess it doesn't really have an easily explainable hook in the way a lot of popular prestige shows do

it's about controlling an empire and being insanely rich

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:17 pm
by Cone
I’ve been selling it as “corporate Game of Thrones with compelling characters”

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:26 pm
by badhat
its about how the superrich are bred and conditioned to be toxic monsters and arent "just like us" and what that means for the world.

and also its dynasty for uppermiddlebrow people

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:28 pm
by mini
if you think it's tough to convince people to watch this show now, imagine how i felt around this time last year

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:30 pm
by blab
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


i'm like 5 episodes away from finishing sopranos. gunna need a new show. is this one it??

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:30 pm
by blab
i'm an intellectual so if the show is smart that is okay w me

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 pm
by tgk
one friend didn't want to watch it because they thought it was just a dumb a&e show like billions, and why should we be watching a show about billionaires in this day and age.

one stopped watching because he couldn't take the "cringy" nature of it

my mother was the most baffling one. she said she stopped because she "didn't have anyone to root for", i reminded her that its from the guy who worked on in the thick of it, in the loop, and veep and she was like "i love those shows!" and i go "but there was no one to root for on those shows either" and she goes "well, those were comedies". i tried to convince her that in its own way, succession is just as funny as those shows you just need some time to adjust.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:05 pm
by tgk
it kinda feels a little like a spiritual successor to mad men, gorgeous, meticulous with attention to detail, and pretty much every character is under enormous pressure and constantly miserable. also like mad men you had a cast with basically zero star power that, by season 2 has sent all these actors skyrocketing (def here for the alan ruck renaissance)

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:50 pm
by scrambled
ok i only read the last two posts in fear of spoilers. finally dipped my toe in (i was like that first friend of tgk's that thought it would be like billions nonsense). just started season 1 tonight and now i'm obsessed :roll: - i feel like i read some random tweet reference that the start of season 1 is rough so i'm excited to see the show get even better.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 am
by LloydChristmas
number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


Before I started it, I assumed it was gonna be like Suits or Billions or something.... and only gave it a go because of the near universal praise I was seeing online. I was very pleasantly surprised.

The best thing I think I can do to get other people to watch it is mention that the creator was also responsible for Peep Show.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:22 am
by Franco
Billions rules

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:28 am
by aububs
billions is funny shit. it's like succession but crap. love it.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:00 am
by OLD SAINT RIXX
number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


I was gonna post this a couple days ago

it's baffling to me but yeah, all of my friends that have watched the same canon golden age shows and share my tastes and opinions..they just won't give it a shot. it's actually infuriating lol

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:11 am
by Darlene
I really enjoy Billions but mostly because I love Paul Giamatti.

I've been thinking a lot lately that in a strange way this show reminds me of Barry Lyndon. Like the constant half assed happy accidents and inversely the shitty luck, the comedic tone, the weird tragedy and pacing as well as the inevitable miserableness of all the horrible rich people at the end doing anything to stay in control.

Re: Succession (HBO)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 am
by Darlene
RIXX wrote:
number none wrote:
tgk wrote:It's very very good and almost impossible to convince anyone else to watch


yup, it's the most recommendation-resistant show of all time for some reason


I was gonna post this a couple days ago

it's baffling to me but yeah, all of my friends that have watched the same canon golden age shows and share my tastes and opinions..they just won't give it a shot. it's actually infuriating lol


And yes oh my god, thankfully I've found a handful of dedicated superfans, but like I was getting legitimately angry at a friend who refused to be bothered with it for the whole season and I know they would love it and really wanted them to catch up so we could enjoy the finale together and its like oh my god you are missing the television event of the fucking decade.