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Spoilt Victorian Child wrote:Roman’s the best performance I think.
he never moves outside of a comfortable and mild self-satisfaction, which I get as his child-only-being-an-edgelord-because-they're-waiting-for-their-parent-to-look-at-them character but it's one dimensional to me.
this isn't true imo. there are moments of introspection and self-doubt from roman, particularly as he's been discovering what he likes sexually in this season, his moments with his (ex?) girlfriend and of course gerri, but also in the last couple of episodes he's been almost a voice of reason at times. his whole character is obviously borne of a need to measure up to his siblings and his father, but also from being treated as a joke for most of his life. he presents as self-satisfied but he's anything but. it's not one dimensional. and i think his experience with the terrorists is the show giving him a very specific incident from which his character will grow and change. and as an actor i think culkin is great at improv, which i believe he's been doing a lot of in this show with j smith cameron who he knows from way back. apparently the show-runners noticed them improvising together and decided they had to get them together more. i dunno i think culkin is one of the best things in a show full of greatness
i think we agree more than you think about the characters psychology. I'm not saying he doesn't have moments of introspection and self-doubt, I just don't feel them escape from what i see as a visibly controlled performance and range.
Spoilt Victorian Child wrote:Roman’s the best performance I think.
he never moves outside of a comfortable and mild self-satisfaction, which I get as his child-only-being-an-edgelord-because-they're-waiting-for-their-parent-to-look-at-them character but it's one dimensional to me.
he may just be underdeveloped compared to the rest? in an effort to keep him zippy and able to platform comic relief.
like, I assume His Baggage is being a coddled, smart, bored rich kid who has never met threat and has no clue how to respond or grow from it so instead he falls on a vision of the world that is absurd and unreal and distant from surface strife, but like, what did he do before this series started?
I can understand that criticism after S1 but they developed Roman a lot in S2. There are hints all over the place that he was seriously traumatized as a child, beyond the general emotional abuse that all of them experienced.
sure but it honestly all tracks to "youngest sibling" stuff to me
Feech La Manna wrote:One thing Cox absolutely nails is the Iannucci style grandoise profanity. Still laughing at "It smells like the cheesemonger died and left his dick in the brie"
- a gathering Occassion - an absolutely repugnant rich people abusing power moment - a childish, playful (and/or traumatic) reference to their childhoods and growing up together - an The Apprentice-style Logan moral/power ranking promotion or demotion ("you did good", "fuck off!")
i can probably do a shitty bullet point list for any show ok
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Spoilt Victorian Child wrote:Roman’s the best performance I think.
he never moves outside of a comfortable and mild self-satisfaction, which I get as his child-only-being-an-edgelord-because-they're-waiting-for-their-parent-to-look-at-them character but it's one dimensional to me.
he may just be underdeveloped compared to the rest? in an effort to keep him zippy and able to platform comic relief.
like, I assume His Baggage is being a coddled, smart, bored rich kid who has never met threat and has no clue how to respond or grow from it so instead he falls on a vision of the world that is absurd and unreal and distant from surface strife, but like, what did he do before this series started?
wow I just realized I have more than one Roman friend in my life that fits this description precisely
i think theres all kinds of self awareness and nuance to culkin’s roman i just think they do it with out any on-the-nose performative moments. its just baked into the looks and posture and little tiny tells in his behavior and hints sprinkled in backstory.
There’s no path to a satisfying conclusion at this point.
i think he's at his best when he's shrugging off the latest beatdown, like his childhood dog cage torture right after logan smacked him, the car ride later, everyone making fun of him getting taken hostage plus every moment of his bad attempts at sex
yeah this is up there with anyone for best character
((Stuffed is loved by old and young because this is where the puddings get sent in. Criss-cross paving and those tinkly hanging bells make ((Stuffed a very homely access to Hades. Full marks.
I love Roman and I think Culkin does a brilliant job of embodying this weird but surprisingly nuanced guy. I don't think the show knew what to do with him from the get-go (shifting his character from the total heel in S1E1 to the audience surrogate and voice of reason throughout most of S2), but over the course of the two seasons he's developed into a pretty deep but understated character, which is not at all what I expected based on how he was drawn early on.
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Yeah I know. It's almost completely rooted in how pointless he was in Deadwood, which wasn't his fault because the show wrote him into a stupid role.
But I've never been able to shake it, and he's just so pompous all the time in all his intonations and cadences. Fingernails on the chalkboard of my soul.
It really works for this role though so in this one specific context it's perfect.
definitely forgot he was in deadwood. i like brian cox and yeah this role is perfect for him but i kinda get it. i liked him as hannibal lecter and in super troopers
cox is incredible in deadwood, it’s the rest of the troupe that have nothing to do and drag that storyline down but his tender friendship with al and hilarious pseudoscientific therapy sessions with Hearst are some of my favorite parts of s3
Also just such a totally different energy than Logan, Cox is a dang legend i love him!
One thing that kinda dropped off in season 2 was Marcia’s role, I remember after the s1 finale people here were like “I can’t wait to get more revealed about Marcia and what her goals and machinations are.” Which, I’m kinda glad they didn’t go into, having Marcia being this scheming mastermind would’ve been from a different show, but I thought seeing how she navigated a man like Logan and his infidelities and ultimately what was the final straw for her was way more interesting, I hope they expand upon that more
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