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Postby ratbags » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:26 pm

do you wanna watch spiderman into the spiderverse with me
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Postby mystery meat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:28 pm

yeah that looks sick, also im a spideyhead from way back
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Postby ratbags » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:29 pm

we can crush a couple of mcchickos
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Postby mystery meat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:32 pm

idk what that is
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Postby mystery meat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:33 pm

hey nathan wrote:and Youre Never Too Young

Taurog on tap!
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Postby ratbags » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:34 pm

mccheekies with cheesies
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Postby mystery meat » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:35 pm

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i'll just be tackling one of these
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Postby palmer eldritch » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:37 pm

natural and artificial, the two great flavors
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Postby Plainsong » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:10 pm

Watched DeMille's Cleopatra last night and it floored me.
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Postby mystery meat » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:34 pm

DeMille is so underrated. he got sideswiped by auteurism somehow. one of the all-time giants and pioneering craftsmen and unbeatable at what he did etc
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Postby Spoilt Victorian Child » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:42 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:that movie sounds insane

Yeah. Although having seen Monkey Business I'm not sure I need to see Ginger Rogers pretending to be a child again.

We've been meaning to do some DeMille but yeah... it is a bit hard to remember because he just never comes up in anything I read. I've still never seen anything of his.
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Postby Plainsong » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:44 pm

mystery meat wrote:DeMille is so underrated. he got sideswiped by auteurism somehow. one of the all-time giants and pioneering craftsmen and unbeatable at what he did etc

I can agree with that. I've honestly never seen anything as well composed and lavish as Celopatra so i'm more than excited to watch more of his films.
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Postby Franco » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:44 pm

One thought I’m left with after watching Journey to Italy was that it was the direct inverse of Brief Encounter, which I also recently watched for the first time. The latter saw two people drawn toward spending every waking moment together while the world and their circumstances ultimately kept them apart. Journey sees a couple looking for any excuse to stay away from each other but it’s their environment, the weight of history, and most of all convenience that brings them back to a union.

One other concept I’m left with is Restraint. The film several times butted right up to the edge of spilling over and being about something greater but Rossellini pulled it back every time. I loved the middle ground achieved between it having the vibe of a vacation but also very much not. Travel often leads to self discovery and you expect that for them, but time and time again you’re reminded that this ain’t leisure and it never quite happens.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:48 pm

its a great pic
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Postby John Dark » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Should I upend my schedule to watch the two Clouzot flicks about to leave MUBI (Le Corbeau and Quay of the Goldsmiths)? I've only seen Wages of Fear before, but I love it.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:00 pm

theyre fine but not amazing
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Postby Wrong Titus » Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:37 am

I'll throw some weight behind Le Corbeau, as a nasty psych thriller I thought it was a great precursor to Diabolique (if not Wages of Fear, which is kind of its own insurpassable thing)
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Postby mystery meat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:20 pm

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Pushover | Columbia | Richard Quine | Fred MacMurray / Kim Novak / Dorothy Malone | 1954

similar to Double Indemnity but 40s bone-chilling expressionized shadowverse evil noir is now the 50s noir that’s used to malaise and is now longer shocked by protagonists shaking hands with the devil. Kim Novak is fascinating in this for how vulnerable and real she is, clearly not thrown under the bus as irreparable gangster’s moll or femme fatale fated to death. Quine is a great director and the logistics and rhythm of the film’s second half (who’s stationed where and who’s keeping tabs on whom) are paragons of what we might call dexterity in cinematic technique. highly recommended to all my noir-heads.

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Le Trou | Jacques Becker | Michel Constantin / Jean Keraudy / Philippe Leroy |1960

the camaraderie and implicit unquestioned trust among the four prison-mates is the kind of thing you dont really see in movies very often, outside of some friendship-oriented westerns (Rio Bravo chiefly). it has a lot of the fascination with tools and intelligence and procedural cunning that Man Escaped also is and invites comparisons i think, but this is a french penitentiary not a gestapo prison and the prisoners are probably actual gnarly murderers n shit. so i guess what i mean is the prison break in Le Trou is less a holy grail the journey to which is sanctified from the start (not putting down Man Escaped, it’s still the better film, just trying to articulate the distinction). but anyway the coolest thing about this movie is that the fifth dude who joins their cell is clearly the outside organism whose trustworthiness is yet unvalidated. but Becker postpones the reckoning of the inevitable flare-up betrayal so the audience can wallow in unvarnished teamwork and choreography and fleet-footedness. def masterpiece. need to see the Becker deep cuts.

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Beau Geste | Paramount | William A. Wellman | Gary Cooper / Ray Milland / Robert Preston / Susan Hayward / Brian Donlevy | 1939

didn’t really care for this, i guess it’s my aversion to Kipling-adjacent colonialist warfare adventure fantasies. this one has some elaborate jewel heist thrown into the mix. typical filmmaking verve from Wellman but it’s kinda like Stingaree, the rollicky adventure mode is just inferior to all the other Wild Bill genres like crime melodramas and the like. c’est la vie.

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Born to Dance | MGM | Roy Del Ruth | James Stewart / Eleanor Powell | 1936

of course i watched this in pursuit of Jimmy Stewart completism but then realized it is more justly sought after as a 30s Musical Gem par excellence. though an MGM production, it’s helmed by Roy Del Ruth right after jumping ship from Warners, where his movies always had verve and snap. you can see it here too. it’s a lithe, rhythmic production limned with comedy and buttressed by some really snazzy production design. JStew made so much sense as a musical star, it’s amazing witnessing him in this role. he can camouflage whatever vocal imperfections or lack of dancing know-how with the kind of raw charm that is the stuff of stardom. it’s still so weird to me how quickly MGM slated him for the A-List.

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Holiday Affair | RKO | Don Hartman | Janet Leigh / Robert Mitchum / Wendell Corey | 1949

weirdest role for Mitchum i can imagine, it’s like RKO was a year off from realizing he could never do Van Johnson-style dopey eccentric winning cheer-up holiday garble and that he was irrevocably destined for the gnarliest roles Hollywood has ever had to offer. he still exudes sex and swagger in this — like there’s a definite reason Leigh prefers him to Corey (this guy’s such a dweeb lmao) and it’s not any of the goofy Christmas-mystical reasons the script provides (about the power of miracles and Mitchum being a benevolent pigeon-feeding outcast, blah) — but he’s kinda wasted. Leigh is always great, and especially underrated in her early films imo.

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The Diplomatic Pouch | Alexandr Dovzhenko | 1927

some insane camera and lenswork in this, especially in the opening ravishing scene of the courier’s death, but i ultimately tapped out as it became cumbersome with espionage thriller tropes.

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Jamaica Inn | Alfred Hitchcock | Charles Laughton / Maureen O’Hara | 1939

i was assured by a close friend that this was a dud but i simply could not believe it given the talent involved. but i should have recalled: Hitchcock and Laughton also teamed up for The Paradine Case, which sucked. and, well, so does this. Laughton is the only interesting character, all-but-mustache-twirling supervillainy, and Maureen O'Hara starts out fiery and resilient but soon dwindles into damsel-in-distress histrionics as the adventure movie mechanics get rustier and creakier until mercifully grinding to a halt.

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Man Wanted | Warner Bros. | William Dieterle | Kay Francis / David Manners/ Andy Devine / Una Merkel | 1932

perfect little pre-code. i’m still discovering Kay Francis but it seems like she’s born for “modern career woman” type roles as they were depicted in the 30s (see also: Female starring Ruth Chatterton). she’s got a soft glacial quality, wise to the world but not yet disenchanted with it, still willing to lay her vulnerabilities on the line in exchange for good ol’ movie romance. Manners is lame as hell but Francis shines all the brighter next to his personalitylessness.

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King of Kings | MGM | Nicholas Ray | Jeffrey Hunter / Robert Ryan | 1961

Nicholas Ray completism, Robert Ryan completism. newfound love of Biblical epics. this viewing came at a good time. def clunky at times and Jeffrey Hunter never seems human enough for me, much less a vessel for The Divine. but i kinda liked his orations. i liked Welles’ narration. i liked the sets and the scenery. there’s definitely enough splash and kinesis too, it’s not just from-a-distance picture-postcard staging. i’m pretty sure Ray was zonked out of his mind the whole time. Robert Ryan as John the Baptist should be way cooler than it sounds but it’s all piety cardboard, oh well.
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Postby mellowgold » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:46 pm

mystery meat can u take over for Eddie Muller on "Noir Alley"?

i dont like him!
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Postby mystery meat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:50 pm

but he's the Czar of Noir!
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Postby mellowgold » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:50 pm

uggggh!!!

u KNOW he has framed posters of The Three Stooges in his "man cave"
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:53 pm

I liked the crucifixion POV cam in King of Kings. Rip Torn was a better Judas here than Harvey Keitel in The Last Temptation of Christ, but Willem Dafoe was the best Jesus in cinematic history, so.
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Postby goldsoundz » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:47 pm

haha man, jamaica inn is so awful. i remember watching it on a rainy night back when i was first getting into hitchcock and devouring everything i could from him and it felt like it was never gonna end.
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Postby naturemorte » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:14 pm

i saw eddie muller do a Q&A with carl franklin at noir city last year that was one of the most excruciating things i've ever witnessed. his questions were just loaded with both insane self-regard and totally unacknowledged racist assumptions. "i have a show on TCM, and when I'm at airports, I'm always so surprised when black women approach me saying how much they love my show and how much they love NOIR. Which I think is weird, because NOIR films don't have black people in them. How did you, a black person, get into NOIR?" I hate him so much.

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Postby mystery meat » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:50 am

fav flicks watched for first time in 2018

FLESH AND THE DEVIL (Clarence Brown, 1926)
THE LOVE OF JEANNE NEY (G.W. Pabst, 1927)
STREET ANGEL (Frank Borzage, 1928)

HER MAN (Tay Garnett, 1930)
BLESSED EVENT (Roy Del Ruth, 1932)
THE BLACK CAT (Edgar G. Ulmer, 1934)
THE GOOD FAIRY (William Wyler, 1934)
BORN TO DANCE (Roy Del Ruth, 1936)
ANGEL (Ernst Lubitsch, 1937)
DÉSIRÉ (Sacha Guitry, 1937)
PEPE LE MOKO (Julien Duvivier, 1937)

LES VISITEURS DU SOIR (Marcel Carne, 1942)
WENT THE DAY WELL? (Alberto Cavalcanti, 1942)
MARGIE (Henry King, 1946)
IT ALWAYS RAINS ON SUNDAY (Robert Hamer, 1947)
A SHIP TO INDIA (Ingmar Bergman, 1947)
CORRIDOR OF MIRRORS (Terence Young, 1948)
UNFAITHFULLY YOURS (Preston Sturges, 1948)
THE SMALL BACK ROOM (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger, 1949)

A LIFE OF HER OWN (George Cukor, 1950)
99 RIVER STREET (Phil Karlson, 1953)
THE MAGGIE (Alexander Mackendrick, 1954)
PUSHOVER (Richard Quine, 1954)
SILVER LODE (Allan Dwan, 1954)
I LIVE IN FEAR (Akira Kurosawa, 1955)
PRINCESS YANG KWEI-FEI (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1955)
PUNISHMENT ROOM (Kon Ichikawa, 1956)
WOMAN IN A DRESSING GOWN (J. Lee Thompson, 1957)
THE MUSIC ROOM (Satyajit Ray, 1958)
WARLOCK (Edward Dmytryk, 1959)

LE TROU ( Jacques Becker, 1960)
A WIFE CONFESSES (Yasuzo Masumura, 1961)
REVENGE OF A KABUKI ACTOR (Kon Ichikawa, 1963)
THE ASSASSIN (Masahiro Shinoda, 1964)
SEANCE ON A WET AFTERNOON (Bryan Forbes, 1964)
ZULU (Cyril Endfield, 1964)
FISTS IN THE POCKET (Marco Bellocchio, 1965)
SCATTERED CLOUDS (Mikio Naruse, 1967)
WE STILL KILL THE OLD WAY (Elio Petri, 1967)
WHO’S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF? (Mike Nichols, 1967)

THE BOSTON STRANGER (Richard Fleischer, 1968)
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (George A. Romero, 1968)
SHAME (Ingmar Bergman, 1968)

INVESTIGATION OF A CITIZEN ABOVE SUSPICION (Elio Petri, 1970)
THE MOTHER AND THE WHORE (Jean Eustache, 1973)
EFFI BRIEST (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1974)
THE TAMARIND SEED (Blake Edwards, 1974)
BLUE COLLAR (Paul Schrader, 1978)
DAWN OF THE DEAD (George A. Romero, 1978)

REBELS OF THE NEON GOD (Tsai Ming-Liang, 1992)
CARLITO’S WAY (Brian De Palma, 1993)
THE ADDICTION (Abel Ferrara, 1995)
DEEP CRIMSON (Arturo Ripstein, 1996)
ALL ABOUT MY MOTHER (Pedro Almodovar, 1999)
BELFAST, MAINE (Frederick Wiseman, 1999)

MANDERLAY (Lars von Trier, 2005)
VINCERE (Marco Bellocchio, 2009)

WHIPLASH (Damien Chazelle, 2014)
QUEEN OF EARTH (Alex Ross Perry, 2015)
THE REVENANT (Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, 2015)
GOOD TIME (Josh & Ben Safdie, 2017)
PHANTOM THREAD (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2017)
YOU WERE NEVER REALLY HERE (Lynne Ramsay, 2017)
FIRST REFORMED (Paul Schrader, 2018)
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Postby ratbags » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:12 am

Have you watched what I told you to watch yet
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Postby alex » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:53 am

mystery meat wrote:Image

King of Kings | MGM | Nicholas Ray | Jeffrey Hunter / Robert Ryan | 1961

Nicholas Ray completism, Robert Ryan completism. newfound love of Biblical epics. this viewing came at a good time. def clunky at times and Jeffrey Hunter never seems human enough for me, much less a vessel for The Divine. but i kinda liked his orations. i liked Welles’ narration. i liked the sets and the scenery. there’s definitely enough splash and kinesis too, it’s not just from-a-distance picture-postcard staging. i’m pretty sure Ray was zonked out of his mind the whole time. Robert Ryan as John the Baptist should be way cooler than it sounds but it’s all piety cardboard, oh well.

nice, as a rayhead that's enough of an endorsement for me to take a look

what's your personal read on BORN TO BE BAD (1950) or THE SAVAGE INNOCENTS (1960)? those were the first couple of his minor works that jumped out at me as ones i need to see
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Postby mystery meat » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:23 pm

ragbags idk tbh

alex i can't get past the badness of Savage Innocents (the cheapness of the production, the really bad dubbing) to harvest the things about it that are 'uniquely Ray.' idk he really loses me with that one even though there are cool parts. i've never seen Born to Be Bad, i need to!

also sorry i'm late in keeping this thread up to speed i just broke up with my podcast partner of five years after he emotionally exploded and burned all his bridges in an inferno of self-destruction so i've been reeling n shit.
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Postby mystery meat » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:25 pm

ragbags if you're talking about spiderverse sorry it takes backseat to beale st and favourite in my getting-my-ass-to-the-theater queue, sorry! i'll try not to miss it tho.
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Postby Plainsong » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:46 am

mystery meat wrote:ragbags idk tbh

alex i can't get past the badness of Savage Innocents (the cheapness of the production, the really bad dubbing) to harvest the things about it that are 'uniquely Ray.' idk he really loses me with that one even though there are cool parts. i've never seen Born to Be Bad, i need to!

also sorry i'm late in keeping this thread up to speed i just broke up with my podcast partner of five years after he emotionally exploded and burned all his bridges in an inferno of self-destruction so i've been reeling n shit.

Really sorry to hear that mystery meat, just want to say that your podcast was The best I've ever had the chance of listening to, especially in terms of film. You guys introduced me to things I would've never had the knowledge to seek out if it weren't for you guys. Your podcast will be sorely missed.
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