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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:04 am

i remember it being very trite and very bad but it's just very trite and not that bad

like there are these moments like where the teacher says "and we will call it ... AMERICAN HISTORY X" and norton's character realizing black people are human exclusively by interacting with the world's most patient black people. the score is overwrought. the prison tropes are embarrassing

but you know everyone gives it their all. it's got some good grain. b&w is a gimmick here but it's at least technically well-done. some nice scenery
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:07 am

the dialogue is atrocious though
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:08 am

i remember thinking norton was jacked but he's not

maybe this is the difference between 2019 and 1998
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:10 am

there's a scene i forgot about that was a family argument about rodney king that is just goddamned unbearable

none of it makes sense and nobody can make it work
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:10 am

why did i put this shit on? because streaming services are our new hell
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Postby scramble » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:11 am

norton is just such an opie to be playing tough

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Postby jalapeño ranch » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:11 am

Bold move to cast not one but two actors from Boy Meets World as racist shitbags. Great casting on their part.
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:12 am

jalapeño ranch wrote:Bold move to cast not one but two actors from Boy Meets World as racist shitbags. Great casting.


holy shit i didn't even register the dad

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Postby PROBLEMATIC » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:18 am

ethan suplee is just so goddamn big in this movie. he's a giant and terrifying as shit
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Postby john plainman 2 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:21 am

PROBLEMATIC wrote:ethan suplee is just so goddamn big in this movie. he's a giant and terrifying as shit


I remember goibg to a dog beach in huntington Beach Californiaand seeing a massive dude with a huge swastika on his chest just chilling on a towel on the sand and it reminded me of Ethan in his truck. very inspired casting imo
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Postby Daft Pun » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:22 am

i remember ethan suplee being in this but not the dad. granted, i last saw this like 20 years ago
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Postby furrowed brow » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:23 am

This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence
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Postby john plainman 2 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:25 am

furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence


It's gleefully cruel in a way I had never seen before
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:25 am

like con air the sentencing in this makes no sense to me but maybe that's cause i live in a post-stand-your-ground world now
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Postby KALM » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:26 am

i watched this recently for the first time

it had a lot of actors whom i'd only ever really associated with like one other major role
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Postby virtuous » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:27 am

In my minds eye Norton is absolutely shredded in this
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Postby furrowed brow » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:27 am

more bulky, i'd say
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:29 am

this isn't especially violent outside of a small set of scenes

the curb stomp scene is alarming even without the curb stomp but in rewatching it's hard not to think about the mechanics of a death like that compared to the two other people shot in the scene

the school shooting seemed trivial when i first watched it but carries a lot more weight now; it's almost a throwaway, a dumb resolution that has a shitty cliffhanger about the reconciliation of white supremacy. it feels tacked on. this was released before columbine, of course
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:30 am

virtuous wrote:In my minds eye Norton is absolutely shredded in this


that's a good description. like as shredded as a gym rat can get without juicing

but i remember him being yolked. he's not
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Postby john plainman 2 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:31 am

http://wallpapersboom.net/wp-content/up ... ory_x_.jpg

i think it's the size of his biceps vs his tiny head that contributes to the yolked memory
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:32 am

he was in good shape
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:32 am

furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence

I remember being told the curb stomping had nothing on Godmoney, then I rented Godmoney and got extremely pissed off somebody tricked me into watching Godmoney.
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:32 am

the tattoos in this thing look so unbelievably fake
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:33 am

jalapeño ranch wrote:
furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence

I remember being told the curb stomping had nothing on Godmoney, then I rented Godmoney and got extremely pissed off somebody tricked me into watching Godmoney.


the problem with Godmoney is it don't want everything it just wants it all
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Postby virtuous » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:36 am

The chest swastika looks like electrical tape
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Postby furrowed brow » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:38 am

Debbie wrote:
jalapeño ranch wrote:
furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence

I remember being told the curb stomping had nothing on Godmoney, then I rented Godmoney and got extremely pissed off somebody tricked me into watching Godmoney.


the problem with Godmoney is it don't want everything it just wants it all


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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:38 am

KALM wrote:i watched this recently for the first time

it had a lot of actors whom i'd only ever really associated with like one other major role


the lingering memory i had was Elliot Gould and Beverly D'Angelo both being uncharacteristically bad and I can now attribute that wholly to the writing

D'Angelo in particular just does the most she can. That Rodney King argument scene puts them both in awful positions and there's a breakup scene at the end that would have been 1000% more effective if we never got to hear the dialog and just saw the two talking from Furlong's perspective
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Postby Captain Crocodile » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:39 am

furrowed brow wrote:
Debbie wrote:
jalapeño ranch wrote:
furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence

I remember being told the curb stomping had nothing on Godmoney, then I rented Godmoney and got extremely pissed off somebody tricked me into watching Godmoney.


the problem with Godmoney is it don't want everything it just wants it all


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Postby furrowed brow » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:42 am

lol
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Postby DatLostMan » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:43 am

furrowed brow wrote:
Debbie wrote:
jalapeño ranch wrote:
furrowed brow wrote:This will probably sound dumb, but the curb stomp scene is genuinely brutal (as I recall it at least) and an effectively disturbing use of violence

I remember being told the curb stomping had nothing on Godmoney, then I rented Godmoney and got extremely pissed off somebody tricked me into watching Godmoney.


the problem with Godmoney is it don't want everything it just wants it all


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