ongoing pop discussion

by **No Good Advice** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:43 pm

coop's thread was a success

we can include the korean pop thread thing in this, right? I said only the two girls generation singles were great, but this, from their latest, is really addictive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Bg-zxWCII

2009 has lacked a big soft ballad (ryan tedder's stuff is not in this category). note the crowd screaming out names during a ballad

by **++++++** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:46 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p32P0ziz0v8

Gee Live

by **worrywort** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:03 pm

i can't think of any big ballads either but i imagine there had to be a few country ballads that hit it big.

by **No Good Advice** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:07 pm

oh yeah, you're right, I forgot one which did make a bit of an impression outside country radio, "Need You Now":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ctfNh0j9OI

by **shin blood** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:31 pm

more in theme with the asian upload thread than pop thread, but hey

Way sluttier than Girls Generation and not as catchy, but yeah sluttier

by **fritz** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:40 am

by **Eugenics** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:42 am

ellie goulding 2k10

by **No Good Advice** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:56 am

Ellie Goulding won the Brits "Critics choice for 2010" thing which Little Boots won for 09.. she was a big disappointment, let's see how Goulding does.

fritz wrote:hey NGA, remember how you told me bout some big Japanese artist who wanted to breakthrough and got Stargate to produce her record

I was going to investigate this matter, but put it off, but now the thread is obviously gone

just need a refresher as to who this artist was; tried to look through Stargate production credits and couldn't find it

That was Utada Hikaru ('Utada' in the american market).

Examples of her own production: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sp-6ySBXi4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Tlnd0aavM

by **Maze** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:01 am

Ellie Goulding pretty much strikes me as an uninteresting version of Little Boots.

Next yeah should be all about Mini Viva, after hearing the album sampler, i'm expecting great things.

by **No Good Advice** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:17 am

Speaking of Xenomania, here's the xenomania house band doing a track for an upcoming movie (a nice oldskool Xeno-groove). They've done about half the soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFFh8TUCVKg

by **glass_candle_grenade** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:09 am

by **Maze** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:19 am

I've never really gone anywhere near Japanese Pop and i don't really know why. maybe i should get exploring.

by **No Good Advice** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:27 am

It's a huge minefield of confusion. Their commercial pop field is marked by big budget (often thrilling) production, big budget videos and lots of gloss, but the songwriting is often lacking. Still there are plenty of genuinely great tracks each year, but consistent albums are rarer than white snow leopards. Even Utada, who should be a prime subject since she's in total control of everything in her career, stuffs her album with ballad fillers. Her best, and a good place to start, is ULTRA BLUE.

by **Maze** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:29 am

Thanks, I'll check it out. need some Pop stuff to occupy me till Nadine Coyle's solo album comes out.

by **glass_candle_grenade** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:48 am

Also you could add to No Good Advice's analysis that the anime OPs/EDs make up a huge part of the singles market, good pop stuff which doesn't somehow count as very guilty pleasure isn't easy to find

by **spiraling** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:00 am

i hope this a thread about listenable pop music? im new,.. questions must be asked

one of the better pop songs of recent is 'diane birch - nothing but a miracle'
http://www.spinner.com/2009/05/27/diane ... -premiere/
cant really post a youtube link cuz of work, actually its not so much 'pop'... but more AC, shut up!

by **Maze** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:29 am

what is listenable pop to you? i'm thinking i wont like the answer.

by **rivalité** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:41 am

I'm at a point where I'm less interested in finding new music than I've been in ten years or so. Glossing over Popjustice once a month is almost too much to ask. I just about only stick to names I know and pretty album covers. It's kind of depressing to be at this point but it's all lost excitement.

That being said, I'm hoping this thread doesn't fail me, though I don't have much of an interest in Asian pop (the extent to which I know revolves around Utada Hikaru's Kingdom Hearts song)

by **giant_turtle** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:43 am

simmmple and cleeean is the wayyyy that you're making me feeeel tonight

by **coop** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:47 am

"I'm on a 24 hour champagne diet..."

i'm all about 'ready to blow' right now

by **spiraling** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:39 pm

Maze wrote:what is listenable pop to you? i'm thinking i wont like the answer.

you should mann, i hav really awesome taste in music, not only pop... if you can call it that
lets see, there is adele, amy winehouse, anya marina (i suppose), gavin degraw, old britney (YESS)

ya, its kinda mainstream, got it!

by **No Good Advice** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:15 pm

adele and gavin degraw should probably stay out of this thread

rivalite, that's sad! let girls generation take you back in. Or just download the new Amy Diamond album: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzMCjibF8MM
Actually everyone should. It feels like a greatest hits of golden swedish made pop ten years ago. Should appeal to you fritz.

by **glass_candle_grenade** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:24 pm

by **glass_candle_grenade** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:27 pm

Just noticed she sounds so much like Toni Braxton on this. I just said Toni Braxton in 2009. Oh rats i'm not in the Rnb thread

by **No Good Advice** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:24 pm

shit, had forgotten about that mix. she sounds nice there, you can riiide

I might be missing out on EXACTLY what quality from All I Need you're after.. but to my ears she does that rap singing on a lot of tracks.

..or is it the slightly deeper voice you're after? Generally more on the earlier albums. Or 'Extra Smooth' and 'Read Between the Lines' from s/t, though the songs are nothing like All I Need otherwise.

by **lettuce** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:20 pm

by **thornhill** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:18 pm

This probably fits the thread - The Like's new Mark Ronson-produced single:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5995R9eY_E

A lot more fun than I remember anything on their first album being.

Also, Allison Iraheta's Max Martin-penned, "Friday I'll Be Over U":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7K5AXDY ... 3A&index=3

It's actually grown on me quite a bit and is at least on par with some of the recent Demi Lovato singles.

by **Albus** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:21 pm

No Good Advice wrote:
we can include the korean pop thread thing

What is/was this? The asian music upload thread?

by **No Good Advice** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:58 am

Albus wrote:
No Good Advice wrote:
we can include the korean pop thread thing

What is/was this? The asian music upload thread?

No, that was some random thread which evolved into four pages of discussion about Korean girl group Girls' Generation (SNSD) (which then inspired the Asian upload thread). Which fucked up the 'best of pop' singles list I had in my head for 2009.

by **No Good Advice** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:09 pm

t.a.t.u just released the english version of their new album, Waste Management. Plus a "Transcendent Version" that's just one hour-long track!

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