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Postby DasLofGang » Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:59 pm

put on relationship of command to rake leaves today for the first time since i would guess ca. 2002 because of these posts and was blown away by the sheer degree to which DAMN this record *FUCKS*
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Postby DasLofGang » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:00 pm

such a treat. it sounds better to me now than it did then!!
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Postby grammatron » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:37 pm

I think that’s the only atdi record I’ve really heard. I liked it a lot at the time though.
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:07 pm

It's the only ATDI album I like and when I said that in some ATDI thread way back in like 2003 or whatever the reaction it got was as if I suggested maybe Dubya wasn't that bad of a president. One of my earliest board memories!
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Postby grammatron » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:23 pm

Hahaha
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Postby beefbroth inthe shitpipes » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:10 pm

Doing this with Yo La Tengo right now and just found this thread.
I’m up to And then nothing turned itself inside out.
God damn are they not just the best. What more can you ask for with the variety of styles of songs. Love.
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Postby grammatron » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:59 pm

I've debated doing them, but they have so many records. As I've mentioned many times on this board, I Can Hear The Heart Beating as One is one of my all-time favorite records, but I've basically never heard any of their other records. It's weird.
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Postby grammatron » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:01 am

I'm on the tail end of Buzzcocks now, and god damn. Their original run is nearly unmatched. There's only one song in the entire bit- 3 albums and one impeccable singles collection- that isn't stellar.
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Postby beefbroth inthe shitpipes » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:05 am

grammatron wrote:I've debated doing them, but they have so many records. As I've mentioned many times on this board, I Can Hear The Heart Beating as One is one of my all-time favorite records, but I've basically never heard any of their other records. It's weird.

Just do Painful and the next 4 it’s ridiculous
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Postby grammatron » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:10 pm

10 full-lengths plus the greatest singles collection there ever was and a handful of singles. Skipped the live albums, as usual.

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Man, I don't think I can think of a single band that has as high of a track record as Buzzcocks in their original run. Over 3 records plus Singles Going Steady, there is literally not one bad track. It's just hit after hit after hit. It's really amazing.

After reforming in 89 or whenever, obviously things aren't quite as unstoppable, but there are still a lot of good songs spread throughout those later albums. Modern is the best of the later era albums imo, and after that they seem to kinda settle into a reluctant acceptance of what they should sound like as a band, and it gets a little boring. But it is cool that on the self-titled album from 2003 they dust off "Lester Sands" from the Devoto era. That was always one of my favorite songs of theirs (probably because somehow it was the first song I ever heard from them, despite that stuff not being released officially until like 2000).

They* put out a single this year and I guess are continuing even though Pete Shelley died. Steve Diggle is a good songwriter (his work on the later albums is often stronger than Shelley's), but it just won't be Buzzcocks without Shelley as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, making this playlist was really hard because I could've just put everything from the original run on there. But I tried to balance it with a decent amount of the later era too. If you're not familiar with them, by all means listen to this playlist, but you could also just start at the beginning and listen to those early records.

playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1S4QPwMO9XdecpmdRJdRT7?si=ud1QM1uGRTW9obG5pZQw4Q
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Postby grammatron » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:22 pm

8 full-lengths and a coupl'a eps, and frankly it's absolutely amazing that The Beastie Boys even existed.

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Just incredible from start to finish. There is a slight dip on Hot Sauce Committee, but I honestly feel like if MCA was still with us, that they would've bounced back. It's not that it's bad (quite the opposite), it's just a bit of an experiment that didn't lead to quite as high of a high as the rest of the albums. Ditto The Mix-Up before it, which is very cool for what it is. I don't even have much to say about these records beyond how impressive they are across the board. For a band that is ostensibly a hip-hop group, the quality of work they did in other genres is just bananas. I think Ill Communication is my favorite record, but there's really an argument to be made or every record up through Hello Nasty being their best, and even if someone said To The 5 Boroughs was the best I'd be hard pressed to talk them out of it.

Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2E0t5hRapEHuNVhan2tXPS?si=f_MxoguMQliiUnUBiIOP_Q
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Postby jewels » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:51 pm

i also did the Beastie Boys earlier this year, and was surprised how much I liked after Ill Communication (and how much I already knew those albums, having never listened to any of them by choice.)

I liked Licence to Ill when it came out, but kinda stopped listening to rap between that and Check Your Head. CYH was life changing, and a massive obsession. I was kind of over the obsession by the time Ill Communication came out and liked, not loved it. I still don't think it's as good as Check Your Head, but it's a little White Albumish in it's scope, and very close to as good.

I think I've told this story on here before, but a few years back a guy at my office would listen to CYH, Ill Communication, and To The 5 Boroughs a lot, but never Paul's Boutique. He had never heard it! so I brought it in (we didn't stream at the office yet.) And at 45ish years old, this dude fell in love with Paul's Boutique the way you'd fall in love as a teenager. He played it constantly, and it was really fun, and sweet, and what an amazing album in every way.

"To The 5 Boroughs" is fantastic too.
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Postby grammatron » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:17 pm

It really is. Like, shockingly so. It’s so straightforward but it just nails it. Great sample selections too.
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Postby Aeris » Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:17 pm

grammatron wrote:Try YouTube. I’ve found complete records there when they weren’t on Spotify.

Maybe I should give 13 a chance. Hell, maybe I should just breakdown and do the whole Sabbath discog so we can compare notes.

Do this shit
13 still rules and I have the other 90s stuff loaded and let's make a real mega thread where's we bounce discogs off each other


(Obviously NWW and Braxton level discogs of 5000 live and remix albums should stay their own thing)
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Postby grammatron » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:52 pm

Uhhhhh I already made a real megathread it's called "Thread where I listen to entire discographies" and it's 12 pages and showing no signs of stopping!!!1*

But yeah, I started another Big One w/ a band that has 30 records or so, but once I finish it I might hit Sabbath.



*And you are more than welcome to listen to your own and post about it itt!
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Postby grammatron » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:01 pm

26 or 30 full-lengths (depending on how you count them), a gazillion live albums and comps (I listened to 1 live album completely, skipped around in a coupl'a others), and, it turns out, the Rolling Stones really are the greatest rock and roll band of all time.

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The early albums are good for what they are (and mostly covers), but the cool thing is how you hear them start to sprinkle their own sound into things. "Satisfaction" doesn't come around until the 4th record, and that's where things start to turn. Then you get a song or two on each album where you're like, "Oh, ok, here we go." On Aftermath, their 7th, we get "Mother's Little Helper" (on the UK version) or "Paint it Black" (on the US version) and "Under My Thumb," and where they're headed really starts to become clear. Their Satanic Majesties Request from 67 is their 9th album (or something like that, it's real confusing), and it's such a monumental leap forward, even if it was widely panned initially. But it starts off a string of just absolute fucking masterpieces.

Things don't really drop too far until Black and Blue in 77, but then they bounce back with Some Girls and Emotional Rescue, two more stone-cold classics. Fuckin' a.

Voodoo Lounge is probably my least favorite album in the whole run, and that's because it's boring. Some of their 80s stuff veers off course, but it's kinda fun anyway. And their last coupl'a albums (starting w/ 97's Bridges to Babylon) are totally solid in an "old band just chugging along" kinda way. Their last record is all blues covers, and I have an extremely low tolerance for rich white guys playing the blues, but I'll give the Stones a pass since that's basically where they started off. Plus the production is good and raw.

My biggest gripe is that every song that Keith Richards sings is worse for it, and on the last few records he really starts to sing more and more. The thing that makes even mediocre Rolling Stones songs good is that it's the Rolling Stones playing them, and when you take Jagger out of the equation, it doesn't sound like the Stones any more. It's a bummer.

Something interesting here is that I was reminded of my comments about Weezer earlier in the thread, where I said that when people refer to Weezer going back to their "classic sound" they think they mean the blue album but they really mean the green album. The same thing happens here, where when A Bigger Bang, for example, came out, it's lauded as "classic" Stones, but what that actually means is that it's a throwback to Tattoo You from 1981, which starts off with "Start Me Up". That song becomes the template for the "Stones Sound" going forward. Those classic 60s and 70s albums are full of layered instruments, ballads, moody pieces, etc. "Start me Up" is a straightforward rock song, which is all they do from Steel Wheels on (I mean they do blues songs, but they're basically rock songs too when the Stones do them).

At any rate, this playlist is almost 5 hours long because, well, they have a whole lot of great songs:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6fyknZu810GA2GwRegQiKD?si=mFFRJR7QTFeGr2gtSi5MTw
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:05 pm

Happy is the only Keith song I don't wish was a Jagger
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:06 pm

Likely helps that I didn't know it was Keith until I had heard it a million times
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Postby grammatron » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:13 pm

Aeris wrote:Happy is the only Keith song I don't wish was a Jagger

I meant to say that! That one is good, and he doesn't sing like that on any other track he sings.
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:25 pm

grammatron wrote:
Aeris wrote:Happy is the only Keith song I don't wish was a Jagger

I meant to say that! That one is good, and he doesn't sing like that on any other track he sings.


Probably goes hand in hand with my other post that I didn't know he even sang it until I was told (uh....I learned that from The Howard Stern Show:[ )
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:28 pm

Hugely common thought but I wish I could hear how the Stones turned out if they never fired Brian Jones and he "died" (murdered)
I love most of their stuff from 68-80 but I just can't imagine how incredible it all would have been with his input and creativity
Carry on thread bit much to say about the damn rolling stones
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Postby grammatron » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:32 pm

Agreed. I feel like a lot of the texture he brought to their sound would've been a cool part of the post-Jones era. I do think Mick Taylor is really underrated though. Like, by the time Ronnie Wood came around, he was just plugging a hole, but Taylor really added something.
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Postby jewels » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:53 pm

Keith songs are usually the best thing about the later albums!
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Postby mactheo » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:54 pm

this is a great thread i'm just posting to be in it
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:55 pm

I think I wonder most about what he would have done for the SG/ER era as the like, multi instrumentalist savant and also probably the most obviously queer member of the band when they embraced disco into their sound
Like maybe they would have gone more all in on the sound or maybe theyjust would have had I dunno fucking chanting from tuvan throat singers it something
JJF was the last thing they recorded together really right? And it's probably my favorite song of theirs
Ugh
Ok to be sad

Honestly it's kind of a miracle that they were all so good and even his replacement was so good that they made so much great music after ki-, firing such an obvious genius
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Postby grammatron » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:55 pm

jewels wrote:Keith songs are usually the best thing about the later albums!

Imagine how much better this one would be if Mick was doing his Emotional Rescue falsetto over it!

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Postby jewels » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:56 pm

I don’t remember my opinion on Voodoo Lounge but I’m surprised that I can sing the melody of five songs by looking at the title. Also surprised it came out in 94, would have guessed much more recently.
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:00 pm

grammatron wrote:
jewels wrote:Keith songs are usually the best thing about the later albums!

Imagine how much better this one would be if Mick was doing his Emotional Rescue falsetto over it!



Ok yeah this sounds like he's doing like a Mick "Country Boy" style voice and it doesn't go with the music at all
Like on Happy it's just a Stones song and he sounds like twangy Mick so it's perfect
This just kind of sucks but you can see a path to it not sucking
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Postby Aeris » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:01 pm

He sounds so fucking bored too lol
Jagger is probably bored on most of their later stuff but at least sounds like he's putting in effort
Maybe he's born with it
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Postby jewels » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:02 pm

This Keith conversation between me and grammatron reminded me of the first few posts from this thread.

https://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=67769
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