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Postby potentialgetawaydriver » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:08 pm

Damn. I loved that Cody/Darby Allin match. Would not have guessed Cody was gonna end up taking a more grotesque shot than Allin's backwards freefall into the apron but that chair shot fucked him up big time.
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Postby pinkerton » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:49 pm

Not a fan of barbed wire/any kind of death match stuff but this is cool.
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Postby pinkerton » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:58 pm

Good lord
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Postby dreamshake » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:19 pm

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Postby buriedinspace » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:25 pm

What's your top 5 matches of the year this far?

Mine:

Gargano/Cole 2/3
Moxley/Juice
Ibushi/Naito MSG
Romero/Ospreay
SHO/Dragon Lee
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Postby scurrydog » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:25 pm

That chair shot was really shitty and has no place in modern pro wrestling. There’s no safe way of taking blunt metal object trauma to the head.

Wrestling companies and performers have an obligation to say no to doing such reckless stunts.

There have been too many wrestlers dying and killing as a result of varying head traumas.

It was shitty when the wwe punished baron Corbin for providing more info about cte to talent. it’s also shitty when your head booker/promoter sets a standard for violence that leads to the death and destruction of your talent. Especially when they aren’t in the Vince McMahon position of being able to afford to pay for decades of rehab and medical bills under the table.
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Postby dreamshake » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:40 pm

in total, wrestlers scramble their brains more doing big spots off the top rope all the time, or getting slammed, as they would taking one unprotected chair shot. plus it's the evp taking the shot. if they're forcing jobbers to do that, or it's happening all the time, or the match is like foley rock, I think people have a point but like darby allin's spot onto the ring apron was probably more dangerous than that chair shot. I think this chair shot exposed a real naivete among a lot of fans about how often wrestlers go out and kill themselves for your entertainment. you don't think janela's brain was bouncing around his skull after an elbow drop off the ladder?
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Postby big zorb » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:52 pm

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Postby dreamshake » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:02 pm

lol yall can't handle a chair shot they thought they gimmicked but will cheer on the g1 where most of the guys are doing things that are way worse in terms of the sustained head trauma that can lead to cte? there's literally no such thing as a "safe bump" that totally eliminates head trauma.
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Postby dubs » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:12 pm

i see your point dreamshake but i dont think anyone (at least here) would diminish the risks these guys take every night. but theres taking a risk and then theres taking a metal object off your head at full force.
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Postby Ratthew » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:23 pm

There's also the whole "time and a place" argument and I don't think a debuting Tye Dillenger is worth that especially when you don't have a show for months to even explain the "WHY?!?" storyline. Very much an old ECW vibe where something dumb happens, risk and story wise, and it gets more of a pass than it probably deserves from an overly receptive fanbase
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Postby dreamshake » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:34 pm

I understand the time and place argument and actually agree that it maybe wasn't the best spot for the shot. I thought it took away from the great match Allin had and he deserved another rub there.

I just don't understand the no chair shots ever thing, especially if the pros think they found a way to gimmick it and make it "safer". people seem to be fine watching people do hellacious spots but one failed gimmicked chair shot crosses the line? there's strong evidence cte comes from sustained head trauma rather than concussions so the accumulation of all that whiplash you get from taking flat back bumps in one match is just as bad than that chair shot all things considered. I just find it odd that fans speak out about this but aren't upset about anything involving a table or ladder, or bumps from the top rope to the floor or on the ring apron when the science shows taking those bumps regularly is probably as bad or worse than a chairshot.
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Postby dreamshake » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:42 pm

there's something a read a few years back about the difference b/w bumps in mexico vs the us and how side bumps, along with trios matches, probably accounted for the increased career longevity of mexican luchadors compared to american wrestlers because there's little to no whiplash and so your brain was better protected from the kind of trauma that causes cte. it also theorized that mayybe that was why flair had such a long career. it was solid and i think about it almost every time i see someone take a bump through a table.
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Postby potentialgetawaydriver » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:47 pm

A chairshot to the head in 2019 is going to catch some backlash regardless, but the fact it looked like Cody was almost murdered by the way the back of his head got sliced open...well, that def made it way more visceral and disturbing to see. I wasn't immediately outraged or anything by Cody wanting to do the spot (maybe I should be?) although it was definitely a bad idea and poorly executed.
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Postby Ratthew » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:55 pm

Maybe it was just the chat I was in, but the more telling wave of backlash was from Cody blading on the wrong side of his head that he took the chairshot on :D

Totally agree that whatever you thought of the match, the post-match (including sending MJF out to tend to Cody so you know it's REAL) totally overshadowed Darby's performance, especially to an audience (like me) that was seeing him for the first time
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Postby dreamshake » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:43 pm

i can't believe they used that shot to start a feud with tye fucking dillinger instead of like starting a hot feud b/w MJF & Cody a year from now. or like have omega do it to mox.
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Postby potentialgetawaydriver » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:25 pm

Ratthew wrote:Maybe it was just the chat I was in, but the more telling wave of backlash was from Cody blading on the wrong side of his head that he took the chairshot on :D


Top part of the chair went on that side of his head when he got hit and ripped open a flap of skin. Ain't no blade job gonna require 12 staples.
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Postby Shotfrog » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:10 am

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Postby buriedinspace » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:01 am

Raw was decent by recent standards.

Apparently Heyman had an increased role in it. It also had some swearing and the makings of, if I had to guess, the start of cuckholding storyline?
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Postby Ratthew » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:17 pm

Based entirely on Lance Storm's suggestion, I gave the Impact ppv tonight a shot for the first time in years and it mostly delivered. Same production problems as usual (aside from the great video packages that Impact still does better than anybody, even WWE now) but really solid and even fun matches after a lot of the G1 show just wasn't grabbing me emotionally whatsoever. Morrison/Swann was good for being flippy, as was Cage/Big Mike, oddly enough. They overdid it booking all of the multi-person matches on one show, but none of them were sub-par. The roster right now seems like a good mix of wrestlers you're at least a little familiar with and younger, less-known guys with a good upside. Hadn't seen this version of the LAX yet but they, The North, and The Rascalz all looked impressive for six guys I'd never seen. Main event was the most natural, respectful way I've ever seen an intergender match done without seeming silly in ways that others never figured out with Chyna or Sexy Star.

Definitely worth a watch if you'd like a little more story/heart than the NJPW show and a lot less stupid than WWE right now
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Postby bobble » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:55 pm

I watched the Impact PPV last night too and thought it was fun! Great main event although wrong finish imo. Honestly could see their World Title on Tessa in 2019. She had a great match with Cage at Wrestlecircus last year. Not a Rich Swann guy but was surprised to see that match end clean.

I'm a hypocrite because its G1 season but otherwise it's funnest for me to just watch "PPVs" of whatever is going on and skipping anything weekly.
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Postby Ratthew » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:48 pm

And of course, with becoming interested in a promotion on the rebound, the news comes out today that those were the last matches for the LAX and Morrison
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Postby NegativeCapability » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:32 am

G1 spoilers: Yano pinned Naito :lol:Toggle Spoiler
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Postby Honga Ciganesta » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:47 am

The hoss on hoss violence match b/t Ishii and Cobb was pretty awesome this morning. Shingo/Juice was a real good effort too. Still not feeling Jay White at all.
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Postby buriedinspace » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:47 pm

Honga Ciganesta wrote:The hoss on hoss violence match b/t Ishii and Cobb was pretty awesome this morning. Shingo/Juice was a real good effort too. Still not feeling Jay White at all.


I'm looking forward to White vs several dudes in the block but Goto is easily the most underwhelming guy there.
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Postby a new dad for all » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:05 pm

what is with these brutal closed captions on 1/3rd of the screen

*nm looks like they dropped em
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Postby buriedinspace » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:39 pm

That 6 man was a ton of fun
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Postby Double McDouble » Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:52 pm

This tag main event is pretty much guaranteed to be excellent. Hoping the Rhodes Bros go over.
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Postby Dear You » Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:04 pm

would be fine with never watching another brandi match
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