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Postby hand foot and mouth disease » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:44 pm

hand foot and mouth disease wrote:heyooo, i'm looking to upgrade to a new bike, my current bike is way too small and pretty uncomfortable to ride. i have and enjoy riding fixed gear and this is for city riding.

was looking at this https://www.cinelli-usa.com/cinelli-gazzetta-fixed-gear-free-wheel-bike-blue/ and other stuff from Wabi.

anyone have thoughts or recs?


oh well i guess scratch the cinelli i'm 6'2'' and they're sold out of the 59.5 cm frame
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:03 pm

incoherent grunting wrote:oh, and one more thing... don't have a kid, it'll throw your training & riding schedule way off ;)


lol my son just turned 18 months and I wholeheartedly agree with this but wouldn't change a thing :)
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Postby brittle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:52 pm

everything kinda gets back to normal around age 3 you guys


i thought for sure i was done for, but then at age two, parenting got a lot more regular and predictable, and i eventually got back to where i left off.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:03 pm

haha, no
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Postby gentleman » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:43 pm

ive been riding for 12ish years now...since i was 26-27. i had next to no athletic experience or interest. just started dating a girl who got me into it.

being unemployed really improved my form but i dont wish that on anyone. when i was single, id ride 2-3x a week...maybe 150 miles a week...sometimes 200 or even 300.

3-4 year of riding regularly made me one of the faster guys in the area...like top 10% on climbs. i never raced but trained with racers. i think peaked around age 31-34 physically.

now im 38 and certainly not riding as much. i regularly ride every saturday for 60-80 miles but thats about the only exercise i get. im pretty much in the top 25-35% of the better riders at this stage but thats about it.

basically it takes several years for your body to contort and adjust to riding in my opinion. just ride a lot and as badhat says, go on a fast group ride every now and then...always ride with people a little better than you.
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Postby badhat » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:11 pm

i definitely had a different experience from a lot of 30 something roadies which was most of the dudes i rode with were high school andcollege athletes who turned to cycling to stay fit.

so a lot of em were real aggro about the competition and had jock genes. whereas i had never been fit in my life and found the whole experience really surprising and thrilling. i was in the best shape of my life from like 30-36.

theres a big dif between the dudes who wanna win and view the training as a necessary step to win and someone like me who really loved nerding about training and viewed results entirely as a validation of the training.

thats probably why i liked time trial more than crits. crits were all about nerve and strategy, whereas TTs are all prep and discipline. i loved that shit so much.
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Postby tiger » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:20 pm

this is the best deal on a bike i've ever seen, kinda surreal. my 2011 superx has made it through at least 10 crashes (nothing too crazy, mostly slideouts). was tempted to get it for just the frame and sell the rest. maybe someone else can liberate it.

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Postby gentleman » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:39 pm

badhat wrote:i definitely had a different experience from a lot of 30 something roadies which was most of the dudes i rode with were high school andcollege athletes who turned to cycling to stay fit.

so a lot of em were real aggro about the competition and had jock genes. whereas i had never been fit in my life and found the whole experience really surprising and thrilling. i was in the best shape of my life from like 30-36.

theres a big dif between the dudes who wanna win and view the training as a necessary step to win and someone like me who really loved nerding about training and viewed results entirely as a validation of the training.

thats probably why i liked time trial more than crits. crits were all about nerve and strategy, whereas TTs are all prep and discipline. i loved that shit so much.


there's very little jock culture in the road biking scene here in nyc. i can totally see how its possible but most of them go the triathlete route.

there's a big hipster contigent over the last few years coming from the fixed gear types.
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Postby badhat » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:17 pm

Tri peeps in CO were libertarian dentists and retired military
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Postby incoherent grunting » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:07 pm

I feel so fortunate I can at least ride to work every day!
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Postby KPH » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:15 pm

I miss bike commuting so much

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Got yelled [homophobic slur] during my ride tonight. It’s not that I never heard that back in Mass or upstate NY but the frequency here outside of Nashville is disappointing. It’s more or less monthly, slightly more this year for some reason.
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:36 pm

I think we can all agree that toasting tri weenies is the highest form of competition in any discipline
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:37 pm

but on a serious note, good advice everyone, thanks. I have no desire to race but there are plenty of group rides around here at all levels, maybe I'll try one once I'm a little more fit.
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Postby badhat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:19 am

yeah i think the principles in freils book work even w/out racing as a goal. you can plug in any event or period where you wanna be in peak form and train towards that.

the general principle of blocks and rest and phasins seasonally btw aerobic base and anaerobic drills holds
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Postby 7SEVEN7 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:01 pm

badhat wrote:also theres really something to be said for going on a demoralizingly hard group ride that kicks the shit out of you every week.

I started our local weekly drop ride here in PDX about 2.5 years ago. It's called The Sauvie Shootout. It has made riding so much more fun for me. It's a race pace flat ride with 2 sprints on each lap of a 12 mile loop around a nearby island (Sauvie Island, thus the name) We do 2 laps each week then spilt up and ride the hills. When I started promoting the ride on social media, I decided to treat it like a product, and worked to brand it, give it an identity and create an inviting ride culture that I'm proud of. It's an all out smashfest, but has a great vibe. I create a badly photoshopped promotional image and group shot each week. This is the Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/sauvieshootout/
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Postby badhat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:32 pm

we didnt tell JZ about bike handling and etiquette in packs, but thats a really important part of learning to group ride safely.

how to pace (and not push pace), how not to halfwheel, how different types of pacelines work, how to communicate in the pack, how not to be the newb (or triathlete) asshole that sketches everybody out

really important
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Postby badhat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:45 pm

a good hard a-pace paceline with like 8-10 people who know what the fuck theyre doing is just such an incredible exhilarating workout.
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Postby brittle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:04 pm

At age 38 the local shop ride shocked me into good fitness and bike handling in about four weeks.

I'd been off the bike for almost three years and about thirty lbs overweight. I yo yo'd off the back for the first week, but in just a few weeks I was hanging with the big dogs for the climbs and town line sprints.

They also did a twice weekly pickup crit that I'd show up to where local pros and hobbiest badasses would show up. At first I'd fight like hell for an hour to not be lapped and eventually got fit enough (just by spending an hour drowning in the wind every week), that i started hanging, and then by July was attacking or sprinting for the win anytime there weren't p/1/2 guys shredding the pack.
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Postby brittle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:06 pm

Shop rides for sure.

And they're so nice and welcoming to newcomers too! Even if it is only cuz they know they'll make you hurt but still want you to come back.
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Postby badhat » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:26 pm

many years ago, cycling journo legend caley fretz was an undergrad at CSU and i was new to group riding and we connected on bike forums and he encouraged me to ride The Oval, which is FCs motherfuck saturday ride.

he was a collegiate A then, a super fast, super fit dude and the first time i showed forcthe oval i found him and introcuced myself to him, and despite being a bmoc and surrounded by other collegiate cool dudes he was super super nice to me and for the first month, he’d ride with me and yell tips at me in the line and when i got dropped, he’d fall back and tow me back up to the pack, over and over, and i’d always dig so fucking deep not tocdisappoint him.

i’m still astonished by how above and beyond he was to some dude from the internet. and we became friends and its been thrilling to watch his rise in race journalism.

best dude.
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:05 pm

badhat wrote:we didnt tell JZ about bike handling and etiquette in packs, but thats a really important part of learning to group ride safely.

how to pace (and not push pace), how not to halfwheel, how different types of pacelines work, how to communicate in the pack, how not to be the newb (or triathlete) asshole that sketches everybody out

really important


this I've gathered from reading and talking to some co-workers who were excellent competitive cyclists in a past life.

my aggro competitive instincts run *really* deep but when it comes to biking they are far outweighed by my desire to stay alive and in one piece
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:06 pm

badhat wrote:many years ago, cycling journo legend caley fretz was an undergrad at CSU and i was new to group riding and we connected on bike forums and he encouraged me to ride The Oval, which is FCs motherfuck saturday ride.

he was a collegiate A then, a super fast, super fit dude and the first time i showed forcthe oval i found him and introcuced myself to him, and despite being a bmoc and surrounded by other collegiate cool dudes he was super super nice to me and for the first month, he’d ride with me and yell tips at me in the line and when i got dropped, he’d fall back and tow me back up to the pack, over and over, and i’d always dig so fucking deep not tocdisappoint him.

i’m still astonished by how above and beyond he was to some dude from the internet. and we became friends and its been thrilling to watch his rise in race journalism.

best dude.


you basically did this for me when it comes to boarding lol
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:08 pm

Brittle what's your cycling history? were you a former pro or something?
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Postby brittle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:49 am

Oh no, not even close. I never even CAT'd up.

Badhat, fraew and 7EVEN7 had a lot of success with racing though.

I just had good physiology for it, and read a lot of training stuff for the five races I entered.
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Postby brittle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:52 am

I won one the third and podiumed the next, so I was def on to something. Just didn't have the time and budget to keep up.
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Postby badhat » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:33 pm

my story is embarrassing well documented in here but i’ve been a car free bike commuter since college. been a messenger, event organizer, distance/endurance/cold weather nut, etc.

my actual race career was relatively short. after a few years of serious rec riding in mountains of CO someone talked me into/dared me to do it and i had a really good cat4 year, a disasterous cat 3 year, an awesome second cat3 year that included a pretty gnarly crash, then my 4th year i raced 35+ open and won 3 TTs and quit out of boredom/disillusionment/lack of nerve part way thru the season. but before and after racing i wrote about and planned races and bike events so i was in the organized bike event life for a long ass time and that led to getting asked to run a bike org which led to me focusing more on the mobility justice aspect of active transpo planning which led to a weird midlife career switch and now i’m an active transportation planner.
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Postby incoherent grunting » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:04 pm

What up with Rohan?
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Postby brittle » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:53 pm

incoherent grunting wrote:What up with Rohan?

https://cyclingtips.com/2019/07/inside- ... an-dennis/

it seems everyone has a Rohan story. Each rider or team staff member I contacted in the last few hours said some version of the same: Yes, it’s a problem. This isn’t the first time. It’s a pattern.

“He needs help,” two former teammates told me, asking that I not use any specific stories they’d told. It’s a phrase that turns this story from one of bemused confusion — why would an elite athlete do that? — to one that feels quite sad.
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Postby jenmichaeljarre » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:44 am

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/what-the-hell-am-i-doing-behind-rohan-dennis-tour-walk-out-20190719-p528v1.html

The issue is far from being resolved, from the aspect of Dennis’ well-being and what his "current feeling" is, and also how – or if – the situation could have been managed better by his team or agent. But Dennis himself may have given a clue in an extensive interview posted last month on the Stanley Street Social podcast.

The hour-long chat, recorded in January, took an astonishing turn at the end when Dennis was asked what advice he would give to an aspiring cyclist.

‘‘To this day, there are times when I think 'what the hell am I doing?’,’’ Dennis said. ‘‘In 2018 I reckon there were half a dozen times when I thought 'I could quit – right now’ and January last year was the big one . . . I did not want to race my bike ever again. I was over this sport. But after a while you snap out of it and maybe it’s a a bit of a depressed period, for a week or something, then you realise why you like it again. I have these little periods when things aren’t going well, across the board, sometimes it’s a bit tough. It’s the same with every job . . . you’re bashing your head against the wall 'what am I doing? what am I doing?’ Eventually that wall shows a crack and you’re 'that’s why I’m doing it’, but I still go through those periods.’’

The issue will overshadow the time trial he was expected to win and will linger as the Tour turns to the upcoming onslaught of two more days in the Pyrenees.

Saturday’s stage from Tarbes to the Col du Tourmalet, including the 11.9km Col du Soulor midway, is relatively short andis expected to be a fast a furious day in the saddle for all.


"hot headed" + "strong depressive phases" sounds more like bipolar disorder rather than "being moody as all champions are"
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Postby jenmichaeljarre » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:54 am

also quick reminder that having bar end caps is extremely important. I crashed a few days ago due to a bump in the road i didn't see, and my handlebar end went straight in my thigh. It resulted in the biggest contusion i've ever had, and i can only imagine what it would have been if i didn't have a bar end cap.
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