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Postby Viz » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:16 pm

I took the fight to be Peter's plan and a "let's try this first" attempt. Strange probably already knew that they were going to lose, but he was willing to try it anyway. So when Peter fucked up, he was all, "yup, looks like I was right."
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Postby badhat » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 pm

does anyone think its not the past of the prime universe but that theyre going to other universes to collect stones so steve or carol can wear another gauntlet?

possibly involving the throwaway hela line in ragnarok about the supposedly fake gauntlet in the vault?
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Postby reversemigraine » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:28 pm

I thought the Hela line was mostly a jokey way of explaining the Gauntlet's appearance in Thor 1.
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:30 pm

would be pretty funny to see cap or capt wield an oversized glove that will go past their elbow lol
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Postby reversemigraine » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:32 pm

That said, I do wonder whether they'll go the "Cap wields the gauntlet / gems because he's the purest of heart" route or if it'll be "each of the original six Avengers gets a gem and work together because no single person can do it alone and this all has to end with the people who were there at the beginning" route.
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:34 pm

also makes me wonder how they resolve banner not being able to hulk anymore, there's gotta be a big payoff for that
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:40 pm

tgk wrote:also makes me wonder how they resolve banner not being able to hulk anymore, there's gotta be a big payoff for that


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Postby badhat » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:53 pm

re banner, the rumors based on toys are we’re gonna see professor hulkToggle Spoiler
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Postby tawny frogmouth » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:53 pm

Viz wrote:I took the fight to be Peter's plan and a "let's try this first" attempt. Strange probably already knew that they were going to lose, but he was willing to try it anyway. So when Peter fucked up, he was all, "yup, looks like I was right."


see i took it to be that everyone but strange thought the "attack thanos" plan was the real plan, but strange knew it had to play out with quill fucking things up and never meant to really stop him. you don't see him at all during the moments when quill is losing it, but he's hovering ten feet off camera. he could've just portaled quill away if his main goal was to get the gauntlet off.

like EVERYONE was preoccupied with just holding a foot or or an arm, no one could have stopped what they were doing to get to quill, except strange.

maybe nebula but she didn't really seem to care about stopping the snap, just killing thanos
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Postby kirito » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:07 pm

^ correct
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:19 pm

i think that keeping Tony alive was the main concern, he doesn't offer the stone until thanos is about to kill him.
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Postby badhat » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:25 pm

yeah.

and tony’s the only one left who knows that so thats gonna be fun for his PTSD
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:45 pm

i suppose they have to give tony a happy ending somehow, though i don't know how you really pull that off. thor will probably just fly away to "rebuild asgard", and cap has gotta die.
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Postby badhat » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:51 pm

tony will become the AI in shuri’s ironheart suit
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Postby reversemigraine » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:05 pm

badhat wrote:tony will become the AI in shuri’s ironheart suit


Definitely think this happens.

If Cap dies, I wonder if it'll involve getting zapped and rapidly aging into an old man.

It would be nice if he gets to reunite with Peggy and finally have that dance.
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Postby tgk » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:06 pm

badhat wrote:tony will become the AI in shuri’s ironheart suit


we never saw what happened to shuri during the snap did we? if she's alive that'll give her a chance to bond w/ tony to be able to pull this off.
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Postby Viz » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:18 pm

I think Shuri was on the screen of “missing” people on one of the trailers. Not 100% of that though.
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Postby kirito » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:23 pm

Viz wrote:I think Shuri was on the screen of “missing” people on one of the trailers. Not 100% of that though.

she was. it's in the captain marvel post credits. doesn't confirm anything obviously but you would think she would show herself to everyone when she realized what happened.
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Postby avenue » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:38 pm

badhat wrote:does anyone think its not the past of the prime universe but that theyre going to other universes to collect stones so steve or carol can wear another gauntlet?

possibly involving the throwaway hela line in ragnarok about the supposedly fake gauntlet in the vault?


I would put all my money on hulk wearing the gauntlet.

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Viz wrote:I think Shuri was on the screen of “missing” people on one of the trailers. Not 100% of that though.

she was. it's in the captain marvel post credits. doesn't confirm anything obviously but you would think she would show herself to everyone when she realized what happened.


if there is a time jump in endgame she may have disappeared to secretly become the new black panther.
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Postby Quigley » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:51 pm

Wasn't she in Wakanda with the rest of them though? I guess she was indoors so she could've grabbed a panther suit and taken off.
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Postby tawny frogmouth » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:24 pm

finally saw captain marvel, and i liked it! someone pages ago said that the solo movies are solid bunts that set up the meatier avenges movies and i agree. this did everything it needed to do, and it was mostly fun. i liked it way better than black panther or ant-man and the wasp.

one nitpick: i can't stand it when they don't call a hero by their hero name in a movie. beyond the existence of the comic they got the IP from, was there any reason to call this movie captain marvel? she's not mar-vell, and there's no reason for her to take mar-vell's name. also apparently she had a callsign the whole time, as Avenger? shouldn't her hero name be avenger? i'm sorry, i know this is a stupid thing to gripe over but it's really bugging me. i know they needed to shoehorn in an explanation for why it was called the avenger initiative, but they couldn't have had her earth pilot callsign be marvel? captain marvel?Toggle Spoiler

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Postby tgk » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:07 am

brie larson was so so good in this, but man, origin stories are tough. can't wait to see what she does in endgame
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Postby spix et chicho » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:46 am

Larson definitely had an unusually understated style compared to the typical leading Marvel hero. there were quips, but they were conversational and not rooted in a half-baked overwritten quippy persona. I honestly can’t tell how much of that comes down to performance vs. underwritten character tho.
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Postby tgk » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:50 am

she did most of her work non-verbally, loved the blowing the hair out of the face move on the train. her screaming back at the skrull, and her glee when she first gets her hand restraints off.
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Postby tawny frogmouth » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:14 am

i'm excited to see her in endgame, but if the solution to beating thanos after ten years of movies is just that a very strong person shows up to punch him, i'm going to be disappointed
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Postby tgk » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:16 am

going forward im guessing she fills in the role of de facto leader with cap leaving right?
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Postby badhat » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:45 pm

who will be the core of the team going forward:

Carol
Peter
Dr Strange
T’challa

are safe bets

will ant-man be top tier in future ensemble movies?
what abt guardians?

theres also the theory that sorta checks out thst theyve been seeding (either long game or via time-fuckery) that we could get a a whole separate young avengers team with monica rambeau, scott's daughter, kate bishop, shuriToggle Spoiler
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Postby reversemigraine » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:03 pm

Carol
Shuri
Wanda
Hope
Natasha
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Postby Milk » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:05 pm

yeah as mentioned i believe Strange knew all along how all of it would unfold but it's the way that in the end they win. Though he probably just can't go and say don't worry guys this is the way we win because then it would get people to act differently then they're supposed to for it to work.
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Postby badhat » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:25 pm

oh yeah i forgot tessa thompson is basically confirmed for endgame.
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