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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:59 am

There's a fairly high likelihood of Muschamp being successful.

A. Because Florida is the most resource-blessed program in the East and probably second only to Alabama in the SEC.
B. Because he's a completely and indisputably proven top-flight defensive coach
C. Because he's shown himself to be a very good recruiter like Meyer and Zook
D. Because the SEC-E is going to be pretty bad for the forseeable future. This is USC's last hurrah, UT has a retard coach and UGA is a perpetual collapse machine.

Those things said, I don't see top SEC schools as a sustainable workplace for the best coaches for more than 5-7 years at this point.
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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:59 am

Also Leach is probably the most underrated coach in football. Pair him with a great DC and insane shit will happen.
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Postby Hal Jordan » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:09 am

Erik Bonin' wrote:There's a fairly high likelihood of Muschamp being successful.

A. Because Florida is the most resource-blessed program in the East and probably second only to Alabama in the SEC.
B. Because he's a completely and indisputably proven top-flight defensive coach
C. Because he's shown himself to be a very good recruiter like Meyer and Zook
D. Because the SEC-E is going to be pretty bad for the forseeable future. This is USC's last hurrah, UT has a retard coach and UGA is a perpetual collapse machine.

Those things said, I don't see top SEC schools as a sustainable workplace for the best coaches for more than 5-7 years at this point.


i don't really buy it.

A- is true, though LSU might have a say in who makes the top 2 with alabama.
B- being a great HC is a lot different than being a great DC. Mike Stoops sucked at Arizona. Chizik was a super shitty HC at iowa state, had one fluke season at AU with a senior laden team and a once-a-generation QB, and is back to being an unknown.
C- zook.

the thing really working in muschamp's favor is D. he stepped in at the right time, with UGA shitting its pants and Tennessee a confused mess.
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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:14 am

Hal Jordan wrote:
Erik Bonin' wrote:There's a fairly high likelihood of Muschamp being successful.

A. Because Florida is the most resource-blessed program in the East and probably second only to Alabama in the SEC.
B. Because he's a completely and indisputably proven top-flight defensive coach
C. Because he's shown himself to be a very good recruiter like Meyer and Zook
D. Because the SEC-E is going to be pretty bad for the forseeable future. This is USC's last hurrah, UT has a retard coach and UGA is a perpetual collapse machine.

Those things said, I don't see top SEC schools as a sustainable workplace for the best coaches for more than 5-7 years at this point.


i don't really buy it.

A- is true, though LSU might have a say in who makes the top 2 with alabama.
B- being a great HC is a lot different than being a great DC. Mike Stoops sucked at Arizona. Chizik was a super shitty HC at iowa state, had one fluke season at AU with a senior laden team and a once-a-generation QB, and is back to being an unknown.
C- zook.

the thing really working in muschamp's favor is D. he stepped in at the right time, with UGA shitting its pants and Tennessee a confused mess.


A - UF has far more resources across the board than LSU.
B - It sure is, but those are some bad examples. Stoops - Arizona. Chizik - Iowa State. Nobody's winning at those schools, at least not consistently.
C - My point was that he could recruit but had no coaching skills. He wasn't even a successful assistant.
D - Yes
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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:15 am

Also, neither Stoops nor Chizik had the track record that Muschamp had.
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Postby mcwop23 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:22 am

Our best QB righ now is a tight end who is actually a better RB
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Postby Hal Jordan » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:36 am

how so?

Chizik:
His 2004 defensive unit led the country in scoring defense, giving up 11.3 points per game,[6] and the total defense ranked 5th, which is the same ranking the 2003 team recorded.[7] He garnered the 2004 Broyles Award, which is given each year to the top assistant coach in the nation. The 2004 Auburn Tigers football team finished 13-0 that year, won the SEC title, and defeated Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl. It placed second in the final AP and Coaches polls.[8]

In 2005, Chizik was hired by Texas to serve as their co-defensive coordinator, assistant head coach, and linebackers coach.[9] During his time at Texas, the team won the 2005 NCAA Division I-A national football championship by defeating USC in the 2006 Rose Bowl.


Muschamp:
worked under Saban at LSU, so who knows how much input he had there. at auburn and Texas (same places Chizik worked):
In 2006, Muschamp's first season at Auburn, the defense finished seventh among NCAA Division I-FBS teams in scoring defense, allowing only 21 touchdowns.[10] In 2007, Auburn led the SEC in scoring defense and finished in the top 10 in four defensive categories


then at Texas, Muschamp had one good year, and one shitty year.

they're basically a draw
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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:38 am

Compare the annual numbers, you'll see.

The notion that Muschamp had a bad year at Texas is also nonsense.

Total defense:
2009: #3
2010: #6
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Postby Hal Jordan » Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:48 am

Erik Bonin' wrote:
The notion that Muschamp had a bad year at Texas is also nonsense.

Total defense:
2009: #3
2010: #6


well i'll be damned. living in austin, i could've sworn they were total shit last year on both sides of the ball
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Postby The Priest » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:43 am

They were 111th in the nation in offensive turnovers.
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Postby A-Ok » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:06 pm

Erik Bonin' wrote:i mean your lists are still largely record-based and generally mirror the national polls


not really. using the usa today poll because it has the most teams in received votes, my poll has 3 exact matches (1, 2, and 8). 20 of the same teams. In the 17 differences i have they differ by a total of 163 positions for an average of 9.58. I used the receiving votes and if a team wasn't ranked there i put them at number 42 below miami.
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Postby pulled pork » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:30 pm

Erik Bonin' wrote:
he's cut down on his sideline tirades, which are cute when you're an up-and-coming assistant but not a good idea for a head coach.


Bo Pelini is in his 4th year and he seems to be regressing in this respect.
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Postby carlperkins » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:28 pm

paging hosebeast. sorry you guys weren't able to come play with the big boys.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/10/west-virginia-leaving-big-east-joining-big-12/1

West Virginia will join the Big 12, according to official in the Big East who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the move.

The Mountaineers would fill the spot vacated by Missouri when it jumps to the Southeastern Conference. Though Missouri hasn't formally withdrawn from the Big 12 just yet, that announcement appears to be a formality.
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Postby vhg » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:30 pm

carl stop being such a hosebeast

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Postby dragon jeans » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:49 pm

i said this in the basketball thread, but i really wish the Big 12 would go after houston and louisville, too.
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Postby The Priest » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:50 pm

A-Ok wrote:
Erik Bonin' wrote:i mean your lists are still largely record-based and generally mirror the national polls


not really. using the usa today poll because it has the most teams in received votes, my poll has 3 exact matches (1, 2, and 8). 20 of the same teams. In the 17 differences i have they differ by a total of 163 positions for an average of 9.58. I used the receiving votes and if a team wasn't ranked there i put them at number 42 below miami.


Fascinating. You don't line up 1:1.
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Postby the scofflaw » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:52 pm

man i would love to drive over to louisville, shell out 15 bucks and watch a big 12 team pound the hell out of the cardinals.
houston would probably be a great fit for the big east, though, if the be wanted a replacement.
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Postby dragon jeans » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:55 pm

That sounds like it's the way it's going to pan out from what I've been reading.
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Postby Mechanical Birds » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:22 pm

Mechanical Birds wrote:1. Louisiana State
2. Alabama
3. Oklahoma State
4. Stanford
5. Boise State
6. Oregon
7. Clemson
8. Kansas State
9. Arkansas
10. Michigan State
11. South Carolina
12. Nebraska
13. Virginia Tech
14. Oklahoma
15. Houston
15. Penn State
17. Texas Tech
18. Arizona State
19. Michigan
20. Cincinnati
21. West Virginia
22. Auburn
23. Texas A&M
24. Georgia
25. Syracuse

Hopefully Cincy finishes 10-2, beating Syracuse on the way with their only other loss being to WVU, while WVU wins out and gains the BCS bid. The Big East wouldn't look like total shit then I guess. Maybe WVU will get Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl after Tech wins the rematch against Clemson? Man, that Syracuse loss fucking sucked so bad.


I'd like to edit this so that Wisconsin is #11, everyone else is bumped down a spot and Auburn is entirely out of the fucking poll.
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Postby Mechanical Birds » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:24 pm

and oh shit WVU to the BIG12 fuck yeah
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Postby vhg » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:56 pm

conveniently dropping Auburn leaves Syracuse ranked, very cute
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Postby dragon jeans » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:03 pm

comic themed power rankings over at SI

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... =hp_t12_a1

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Postby pinkerton » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:53 pm

i'm over the lsu loss and so ready for ole miss girls/houston nutt in my town this weekend.
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Postby beave » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:01 pm

he really is the gift that keeps on giving 12 weeks a year
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Postby the scofflaw » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:19 pm

can't get enough of that sweet, sweet nutt
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Postby the scofflaw » Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:22 pm

sirbeavertease wrote:he really is the gift that keeps on giving 12 weeks a year


the more i think about it, hosebeast is the houston nutt of the ncaa threads
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Postby vhg » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:30 pm

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Postby Hal Jordan » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:28 pm

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Postby mustlovedongs » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:48 pm

gonna have to put hosebeast on suicide watch
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