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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:52 am

Hal Jordan wrote:kinda blowing my mind that ppl think it's carrot AND stick and two different forms of motivation and not just one thing


what
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:53 am

Carrot and stick
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"Carrots and Sticks" redirects here. For the album, see Carrots and Sticks (album). For the book, see Ian Ayres.
The phrase "carrot and stick" is a metaphor for the use of a combination of reward and punishment to induce a desired behavior.

In politics, "carrot or stick" sometimes refers to the realist concept of soft and hard power. The carrot in this context could be the promise of economic or diplomatic aid between nations, while the stick might be the threat of military action.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_and_stick
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:54 am

i guess what i'm saying is what the hell are you talking about hal
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Postby sniplets » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:54 am

I agree with Hal, and am calling bullshit on Wikipedia.
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:55 am

carrot on a rope attached to a stick
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:56 am

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Postby wakeman » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:57 am

I'm pretty sure it means Carrot (Punishment: not washed or peeled, still dirty, not preferable) or (Carrot) Stick (Reward, nicely cut and clean carrot stick, very snackable)
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:57 am

which approach will work best to motivate this donkey: a carrot on a stick or a carrot on a stick?
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Postby Fine Wine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:58 am

wakeman wrote:I'm pretty sure it means Carrot (Punishment: not washed or peeled, still dirty, not preferable) or (Carrot) Stick (Reward, nicely cut and clean carrot stick, very snackable)


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Postby brittle » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:59 am

Fine Wine wrote:carrot on a rope attached to a stick
a pig
in a cage
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Postby Garge Clooner » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:00 am

Carrot and stick is a figure of speech about deceptive motivational tactics

Carrot or stick is a bastardized and altogether different thing about positive and negative reinforcement

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Postby hbb » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:04 am

You catch more flies with honey and vinegar
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Postby k_uger » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:24 am

doesn't vinegar catch more flies?
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Postby farmer » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:29 am

yall its kerotin stick, ie, a horn
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Postby farmer » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:33 am

I can confirm that my donkey likes carrots but ive never tried whipping him
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Postby Longarm » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:38 am

Hal Jordan wrote:i always understood it as "carrot on a stick", it never crossed my mind that the carrot and stick were two separate thinkgs/motivations. and the carrot on the stick is like the picture shows - hold it in front of a donkey to get it to keep walking, it's about motivating someone through false or illusory promises of rewards


yeah this is what i always thought, "carrot on a stick" as a form of unobtainable motivation, but the motivated party doesn't realize it's unattainable.

and then "carrot and stick" is a different thing, meaning implied reward and discipline as forms of motivation?

they seem related
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Postby farmer » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:41 am

keep in mind too that attaching a carrot to a stick and holding it in front of a horse or donkey or whatever wouldnt work. they aren't quite that dumb and they probably couldnt even see it due to where their eyes are placed
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Postby farmer » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:42 am

if they could see it, the carrot swinging in and out of their view would probably spook the shit outta them
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Postby k_uger » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:48 am

I was about to say get yourself a fishing pole farmer
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Postby grammatron » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:49 pm

Hal Jordan wrote:i always understood it as "carrot on a stick", it never crossed my mind that the carrot and stick were two separate thinkgs/motivations. and the carrot on the stick is like the picture shows - hold it in front of a donkey to get it to keep walking, it's about motivating someone through false or illusory promises of rewards

This has absolutely the only way I've ever thought of it.
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Postby Mesh » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:52 pm

grammatron wrote:
Hal Jordan wrote:i always understood it as "carrot on a stick", it never crossed my mind that the carrot and stick were two separate thinkgs/motivations. and the carrot on the stick is like the picture shows - hold it in front of a donkey to get it to keep walking, it's about motivating someone through false or illusory promises of rewards

This has absolutely the only way I've ever thought of it.


I always thought of it this way, and I remember feeling superior when I first noticed the other use popping up in politics and things.
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Postby hbb » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:47 pm

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Postby Marza » Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:57 pm

I just asked my dad and he went with the carrot on stick interpretation
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Postby wakeman » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:17 pm

maybe "carrot or spur" or some other non-stick prodding mechanism would be a less ambiguous idiom
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Postby farmer » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:33 pm

i kinda like that carrots and sticks are similar shapes

you could say "carrot or crop" and be more accurate and probably just confuse even more people.
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Postby hyperbole man » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:44 pm

Hal Jordan wrote:i always understood it as "carrot on a stick", it never crossed my mind that the carrot and stick were two separate thinkgs/motivations. and the carrot on the stick is like the picture shows - hold it in front of a donkey to get it to keep walking, it's about motivating someone through false or illusory promises of rewards

this was 100% what i always assumed but i'm not sure i've ever thought much about it or used the phrase myself, just heard it
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Postby joe » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:54 pm

farmer wrote:you could say "carrot or crop" and be more accurate and probably just confuse even more people.


lol, how about "carrot or whip"
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