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Postby zamboni » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:13 pm

body found in home linked to gunman
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Postby an otter uh otter uh otter uh o » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:13 pm

bad craziness, just take a page from the reaction to roy's joke and don't post anything that isn't sympathetic for the next 24 hours, all right? this isn't really the time.


edit: woa, thread's movin fast
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Postby a falsetto child » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:13 pm

I know we don't need to be going down the road of posting all the stupid shit on the internet but I just...FUCK.

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Postby delgriffith » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:14 pm

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Postby emotional fascism » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:14 pm

I don't want to go to youropenbook about this do I?
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Postby beave » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:15 pm

emotional fascism wrote:I don't want to go to youropenbook about this do I?

i don't want you to go
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Postby KALM » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

Snatch wrote:reading the phrasing, this makes perfect sense -- there's a huge overlap between gun nuts and conspiracy-theory nuts who think anyone who's ever criticized barack hussein obama is on a terror watch list/we're all headed to FEMA camps/death panels/etc.

well yeah, but i mean it's that kind of paranoia or distrust that creates these small but powerful coalitions who take an absolutist stand on all of these issues
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Postby wendy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

Bad craziness wrote:I saw the headline on my phone at breakfast


I wish I'd seen this at breakfast. I tweeted a joke about Sarah McLachlan and Columbine a few hours ago, before I saw the news, and now I want to hit myself in the head with a rock
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Postby This Guy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

31,347 Americans died from gun violence in US last year. 17 died from terrorism.
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Postby Poptone » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

pierrot wrote:You can't prepare your child for an event like this.



Oh, you certainly can't, no doubt. But bread's question was, do you attempt to shield them from terrible things in the world, or engage with them on the fact that these monstrous events often happen. I'd rather gradually introduce my hypothetical child to the idea of the world being shitty, rather than have them grow up naive and have that worldview violently shattered later on in life. I'd think that sort of trauma would be infinitely more disturbing than introducing a realistic worldview to your child.

Again, I don't have a kid, so I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Postby the scofflaw » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:16 pm

potentially the shooter
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Postby This Guy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

31,347 Americans died from gun violence in US last year. 17 died from terrorism.
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Postby Kafkaesque » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

Bad craziness wrote:typing things like "oh my god" on here or facebook or whatever, doesn't do anything for me.

people really need need their indignation validated by likes and retweets. i need to get off the internet for a while right now.
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Postby camping » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

the scofflaw wrote:potentially the shooter
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Postby Feech La Manna » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

I thought youropenbook was gone

Probably for the best

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Postby delgriffith » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:18 pm

You can still search public FB statuses but I don't suggest anybody does.
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Postby ecto » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:18 pm

poptone you would make a terrible parent
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Postby Bad Craziness » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:18 pm

an otter wrote:bad craziness, just take a page from the reaction to roy's joke and don't post anything that isn't sympathetic for the next 24 hours, all right? this isn't really the time.


edit: woa, thread's movin fast


well it wasn't my intention to offend anyone but I'm legit concerned about the desensitizing effect since it's hit me pretty hard
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Postby Gnarls » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm

the scofflaw wrote:potentially the shooter
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Every school shooter looks like the biggest Monty Python fan
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Postby Bad Craziness » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm

an otter wrote:bad craziness, just take a page from the reaction to roy's joke and don't post anything that isn't sympathetic for the next 24 hours, all right? this isn't really the time.


edit: woa, thread's movin fast


well it wasn't my intention to offend anyone but I'm legit concerned about the desensitizing effect since it's hit me pretty hard
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Postby blake » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm

Really scary for those of us with family working in public schools (wife and my mom). I mean, its scary for everyone really, but this hits close to home for me.
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Postby the scofflaw » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm

camping wrote:
the scofflaw wrote:potentially the shooter
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various sources tweeting that the suspect's name is ryan lanza/linking to his fb
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Postby DammitSteve » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:19 pm

someone on msnbc just said "fyi roy is coming back right now" while I was catching up on some of the shittier parts of this thread :shock:


This shit is appalling
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Postby This Guy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:20 pm

Poptone wrote:
pierrot wrote:You can't prepare your child for an event like this.



Oh, you certainly can't, no doubt. But bread's question was, do you attempt to shield them from terrible things in the world, or engage with them on the fact that these monstrous events often happen. I'd rather gradually introduce my hypothetical child to the idea of the world being shitty, rather than have them grow up naive and have that worldview violently shattered later on in life. I'd think that sort of trauma would be infinitely more disturbing than introducing a realistic worldview to your child.

Again, I don't have a kid, so I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I have talked to a lot of children in Iraq who have grown up knowing the realities of war and violence. I will do everything in my power to keep my kids naive.
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Postby Durham » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm

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Postby Pris » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm

From Twitter: CNN & Reuters says the shooter is named Ryan Lanza. #NewtonShooting
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Postby Poptone » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm

ecto wrote:poptone you would make a terrible parent


Wrong, but okay.
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Postby This Guy » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm

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Postby camping » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 pm

http://www.facebook.com/rlanza <-- Possibly the shooter
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Postby board ghost » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:22 pm

addison my point wasnt even an "argument" its a statistic.

middle class americans get scared when they read shit like this and despair for thier own safety and post on FB about whats the world coming to. its hysteria.

This is a a really depressing story, and our gun laws and general social attitudes about guns in the US are indefensible morally, but as mentioned in the aurora thread, this isnt even the best gun control arugment, cuz its an outlier. the gun control argument is the the casual domestic violence shooting or the escalated bar fight or traffic incident or what have you.

i'm the biggest anti-gun pussy here, and if reform is born out of this being a final straw, i'll take it, but i dont think its the firmest ground from which to indict our gun culture.

all that said, its not misleading to point out that a considerably smaller percentageof human beings will encounter human violence now than ever in recorded history. its not an excuse for drones or an abdication of responsible gun control policy, but its a rational response to the hysteria i see from so many people on social media in the aftermath of events like these where otherwise rational people start chestthumping or despairing for our trajectory.
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