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Postby Durham » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:06 pm

light rail coyote wrote:can't help but think that the vast bipartisan agreement that the US needs to "stop" and "beat" china plays into stuff like this.


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Postby it’s frank » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:11 pm

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light rail coyote wrote:can't help but think that the vast bipartisan agreement that the US needs to "stop" and "beat" china plays into stuff like this.




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Postby clouds » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:22 pm

it's kind of like police departments and sheriff's offices say these things in press conference on purpose, huh? like it's fully their intent to be inflammatory and make people hate cops because in spite of cops constantly whining about being picked on, bullied, and hated...they thrive on it. it's a pattern at this point. it's not an accident. they want a select group iof society to hate them more so they can justify more violence and so supporters of police will be even more accepting of said violence.

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Postby DasLofGang » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:26 pm

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Postby clouds » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:27 pm

Carrie Page wrote:given the majority of shootings took place within the cities red light district i can't help but feel like the most that's going to come of this is more attempts at cracking down on sex work in the city under the auspice of "anti-trafficking" namaste.


100% the case. and they sex worker's mugshots will be in the paper, but never their customers. they do online/massage parlor stings here and the women's mugshots always hit the local news, tears in their eyes, but you never see a single one of the men who pays to fuck them. weird!

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Postby auspice » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:31 pm

This Guy wrote:A bad day for him...


how hard would it be to get Daniel Powter to publicly condemn this
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Postby mich » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:31 pm

light rail coyote wrote:can't help but think that the vast bipartisan agreement that the US needs to "stop" and "beat" china plays into stuff like this.


Yes. This violence is a convergence of racialized misogyny and anti-Asian sentiment fueled by Sinophobia that as usual victimizes lower income Asians. And that entire cop press conference will shift the public discourse away from everything except the misogyny. They will probably turn it into some need for greater funding for vice control units like the one that killed Yang Song in NYC.
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Postby auspice » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:55 pm

We can't stop here -- this is Night Country!
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Postby Merciel » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:03 pm

I can't get over how uncritically every major news outlet is parroting the "sexual addiction" thing like it's a quasi-valid reason to murder eight people as opposed to just, like, putting a pornhub blocker on your browser.

Also god damn, my mom goes to Atlanta all the time because the Korean community is so much bigger there that they can sustain all the specialized businesses she wants to visit. One time she told me that it's safer there because there's more Asian people and welp no it turns out nowhere is safe.
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Postby farmer » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:17 pm

Merciel wrote:I can't get over how uncritically every major news outlet is parroting the "sexual addiction" thing like it's a quasi-valid reason to murder eight people as opposed to just, like, putting a pornhub blocker on your browser.

Also god damn, my mom goes to Atlanta all the time because the Korean community is so much bigger there that they can sustain all the specialized businesses she wants to visit. One time she told me that it's safer there because there's more Asian people and welp no it turns out nowhere is safe.


yeah, this week the fbi also dropped their report on the nashville bomber and basically said he believed in crazy conspiracies at that his motivation wasn't at all political but then proceeded to give zero examples of any of his conspiracy theories and its like, half this country is running on conspiracy theories as information for political purposes, can't really just handwave "conspiracy" anymore, but here we are.

i wish the newsmedia was more critical of supposed authority sources doing press releases.
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Postby blurst of times » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:30 pm

fwiw korean-language outlets are reporting that the shooter yelled "kill all asians," though that's not confirmed (i think)


i think it can be true that he was motivated both by racial hatred as well as misogyny against sex workers. seems like not a coincidence that he would hit 3 different asian-owned spas. also kind of interesting to me that people don't even really talk about gun control anymore. at least in the short term, that would do the most to stop things like this from happening imo

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Postby light rail coyote » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:32 pm

not only can he be motivated by both, those things typically go together
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Postby it’s frank » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:34 pm

as the old saying goes, show me a white southern conservative baptist who isn't a racist misogynist and ill show you a liar
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Postby DasLofGang » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:36 pm

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Postby shizaam » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:41 pm

Merciel wrote:I can't get over how uncritically every major news outlet is parroting the "sexual addiction" thing like it's a quasi-valid reason to murder eight people as opposed to just, like, putting a pornhub blocker on your browser.

yeah... it's really insane. every major news outlet blasted that out as a push notification too
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Postby xxx-xxx-xxxx » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:14 pm

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Postby sassafras socks » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:58 pm

Golly, what a shocker.

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Postby blurst of times » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:10 pm

blurst of times wrote:fwiw korean-language outlets are reporting that the shooter yelled "kill all asians," though that's not confirmed (i think)


i think it can be true that he was motivated both by racial hatred as well as misogyny against sex workers. seems like not a coincidence that he would hit 3 different asian-owned spas. also kind of interesting to me that people don't even really talk about gun control anymore. at least in the short term, that would do the most to stop things like this from happening imo

love to live in america, a powder keg where racism, misogyny, and easy access to guns collide...


clarification on the first point


still doesn't mean it's not true (as they specify later in the thread). need to wait for more confirmations...
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Postby joe » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 pm

sassafras socks wrote:Golly, what a shocker.



don't worry this dude is a misogynist too
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Postby mich » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:31 am

Merciel wrote:I can't get over how uncritically every major news outlet is parroting the "sexual addiction" thing like it's a quasi-valid reason to murder eight people as opposed to just, like, putting a pornhub blocker on your browser.

Also god damn, my mom goes to Atlanta all the time because the Korean community is so much bigger there that they can sustain all the specialized businesses she wants to visit. One time she told me that it's safer there because there's more Asian people and welp no it turns out nowhere is safe.


A lot of the higher profile attacks that have occurred have been in San Francisco and NYC. Places with bigger Asian populations aren't safer, they just invite the type of racists that see concentrations of Asians as an "invasion" that needs to be eliminated.
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Postby Lowercase Tea » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:41 am

mich wrote:
Merciel wrote:I can't get over how uncritically every major news outlet is parroting the "sexual addiction" thing like it's a quasi-valid reason to murder eight people as opposed to just, like, putting a pornhub blocker on your browser.

Also god damn, my mom goes to Atlanta all the time because the Korean community is so much bigger there that they can sustain all the specialized businesses she wants to visit. One time she told me that it's safer there because there's more Asian people and welp no it turns out nowhere is safe.


A lot of the higher profile attacks that have occurred have been in San Francisco and NYC. Places with bigger Asian populations aren't safer, they just invite the type of racists that see concentrations of Asians as an "invasion" that needs to be eliminated.


Me and some other AAPI coworkers were talking about this yesterday (in SF) and we were talking about how really nowhere is safe. Small populations still have enormous amount of hate crimes that go unreported as well.
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:56 am



we don't yet know the motive,
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:57 am

it's true that this is very un-american, the country that did the chinese exclusion act would never tolerate this
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Postby farmer » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:00 am

we dont know the motive, but we do know a specific group of people is grieving. who are those people? we dont know, we will have to wait to find out the motive first.
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:02 am

i hate to be "that guy" but if trump tweeted that exact same thing it would've been a half day news cycle about how trump refuses to acknowledge the existence of racism.
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Postby Lowercase Tea » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:03 am

Dems simply will not give up on the white supremacist vote.
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Postby dubs » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:12 am

Both sides have some very good motives and some very bad motives, ok?
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Postby draw » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:16 am

"we will never know the motives" is a racist right wing meme that gets raised whenever politicians don't immediately make ideological pronouncements about certain crimes. In general I think it's fine to make measured statements in the immediate aftermath of mass shootings and other horrific events if you're a public figure.
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:21 am

the motives are pretty clear cut and he didn't actually have to say that part at all and could've still had a measured statement.
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