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Postby draw » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:32 am

If it's confirmed that this is a specifically anti-Asian hate crime, it's probably going to have a huge impact on public discourse & opinion w.r.t. crime and policing so I'd want them to get it 100% right rather than saying something quickly
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Postby jefe górgory » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:34 am

even if the motives weren't blatantly obvious don't really know that i would care if we knew them or not. hard to imagine a scenario where something comes to light and all of a sudden i'm on this guy's side
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Postby draw » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:37 am

I'm not (at all) saying anyone should be on his side or should ever be on his side, or that people on internet forums shouldn't be discussing racialized angles of this crime, just that it's understandable that someone in Biden's position should exercise caution about what he says publicly about it right away.
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Postby Lowercase Tea » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:37 am

light rail coyote wrote:the motives are pretty clear cut and he didn't actually have to say that part at all and could've still had a measured statement.


Yeah, the White House team could have literally copied either of these two statements instead of giving right wingers more ammo to argue that it's only the media that makes things about race.



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Postby jefe górgory » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:39 am

draw wrote:I'm not (at all) saying anyone should be on his side or should ever be on his side, or that people on internet forums shouldn't be discussing racialized angles of this crime, just that it's understandable that someone in Biden's position should exercise caution about what he says publicly about it right away.

fwiw i didn't think you were saying that, to me the question of knowing the motives or not feels neither here nor there for a statement
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:42 am

Lowercase Tea wrote:
light rail coyote wrote:the motives are pretty clear cut and he didn't actually have to say that part at all and could've still had a measured statement.


Yeah, the White House team could have literally copied either of these two statements instead of giving right wingers more ammo to argue that it's only the media that makes things about race.





yeah this wasn't so hard and wouldn't have sounded exactly like every (rightfully) criticized statement that trump made after high profile hate crimes
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Postby endless dave » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:15 pm

I mean, it's not the best statement but let's be clear on what right wing statements "about it" are like:



I know it's not praiseworthy to clear the bar of being better than this, but I mean, even after encouraging sinophobia in the middle of ostensibly pro-AAPI language... it doesn't even mention the crime
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Postby light rail coyote » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:21 pm

both statements are bad for different reasons to different degrees.
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Postby quinine » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:27 pm

draw wrote:If it's confirmed that this is a specifically anti-Asian hate crime, it's probably going to have a huge impact on public discourse & opinion w.r.t. crime and policing so I'd want them to get it 100% right rather than saying something quickly

lol what impact
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Postby draw » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:36 pm

what are you laughing out loud about quinine
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Postby draw » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:39 pm

if it was inconsequential then no one would be talking about it so it seems self-evidently important
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Postby Merciel » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:53 pm

mich wrote:Places with bigger Asian populations aren't safer, they just invite the type of racists that see concentrations of Asians as an "invasion" that needs to be eliminated.


I'm just sad my 70-year-old mom has to feel this now. It sucks her security blanket got taken away.
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Postby quinine » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:17 pm

draw wrote:if it was inconsequential then no one would be talking about it so it seems self-evidently important

I mean do you think some significant legislation is going to arise from this?
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Postby auspice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:06 pm

insert pessimistic "nature is healing" joke yadda yadda yadda

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Postby Pris » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:18 pm

Seeing surreal footage of some hype guy doing a video with people on the ground around him. Can’t recommend it.
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Postby joe » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:21 pm

ahh fuck. i used to live across the street from there
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Postby jack » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:27 pm

they just brought the dude out of the store in his underwear. he looks about like what you'd expect
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Postby Flossed Out » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:29 pm

One of his legs is all red. I wonder what happened.
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Postby auspice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:43 pm

a guy is livestreaming outside the market and will probably get arrested, he's being extremely aggro every time a SWAT person comes and asks him to move away from where he is

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Postby farmer » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:01 pm

damn that stream is crazy this streamer is a bigtime douche
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Postby warmjets » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:12 pm

yeah what the hell is he thinking
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Postby Dead_Wizard » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:13 pm

*sobbing* please....like and ....subscribe ...
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Postby joe » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:24 pm

did he really say

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Postby auspice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:27 pm

yes

other good line was "YOU GONNA TELL THIS WHOLE CROWD OF PEOPLE TO STAND BACK TOO" in reference to people likely waiting to find out the fates of their friends/relatives
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Postby light rail coyote » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:28 pm

whatever utility exists from news livestreamers has certainly been outpaced by the catastrophic uselessness of 90% of these people
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Postby auspice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:33 pm

light rail coyote wrote:whatever utility exists from news livestreamers has certainly been outpaced by the catastrophic uselessness of 90% of these people


reminds me of the guy who filmed the Station Nightclub Fire and at one point walked around to the back of the building and yelled into one of its burning alleys, "Is anybody hurt?" before walking back :roll:
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Postby it’s frank » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:34 pm

nightcrawler (2014) but with inspiration from pim tool and andy ngo
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Postby auspice » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:36 pm

oh our wacky streamer pal was also the guy who took the video looking into the store; please be advised that it is graphic and bodies can be seen, along with gunshots heard at the end. I initially tried to spoiler this but the spoiler functionality doesn't work for tweets, will clear this post if boarders want me to

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Postby shark week » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:42 pm

you can't spoiler tweets, auspice
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Postby shark week » Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:42 pm

i didn't watch the stream but i did watch that clip and it was horrifying
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