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Postby gauchebag » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:10 pm

you know i hate this country and i hate guns and i hate the pointless massacre of people. i have never fired a gun.

but i still don't get why people should be able to sue a gun manufacturer bc someone shot someone (of fifty someones) with one of their guns until the manufacture of guns is illegal. isn't the gun doing exactly what it is designed to do? it's not like the tobacco jerks who lied about the harmful effects of their products. i don't think remington is pretending that guns are harmless, they manufacture a tool that is designed to cause harm.

what i am missing here?
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Postby speakers » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:12 pm

gauchebag wrote:you know i hate this country and i hate guns and i hate the pointless massacre of people. i have never fired a gun.

but i still don't get why people should be able to sue a gun manufacturer bc someone shot someone (of fifty someones) with one of their guns until the manufacture of guns is illegal. isn't the gun doing exactly what it is designed to do? it's not like the tobacco jerks who lied about the harmful effects of their products. i don't think remington is pretending that guns are harmless, they manufacture a tool that is designed to cause harm.

what i am missing here?


i have no real insight here so i should probably just not post at all but i think the big tobacco comparison is apt because the gun lobby has suppressed (among many other things i'm sure) research into gun safety measures, mass shootings, etc, for many decades
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Postby blab » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:15 pm

a proud boy neo nazi pulled a gun on a woman in deep ellum a couple nights ago over a parking spot, whipped her phone out of her hand, and beat her when she went to defend herself. fucked city and country

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/03/22/woman-recovering-vicious-assault-deep-ellum-parking-lot/
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Postby gauchebag » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:16 pm

research lol? mentally disturbed people shoot people with guns. what is there to research? make the guns illegal do the logical and obvious thing that will protect people. suing the gun manufacturer doesn't really seem to do anything. gives them less money to lobby with maybe?
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Postby farmer » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:07 pm

gauchebag wrote:research lol? mentally disturbed people shoot people with guns. what is there to research? make the guns illegal do the logical and obvious thing that will protect people. suing the gun manufacturer doesn't really seem to do anything. gives them less money to lobby with maybe?


is this a troll or what
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Postby goofjan » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:51 am

every single right wing asshole who publicly harassed the Parkland survivors should be on trial for these deaths.
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Postby screaming emphysema » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:27 pm

This is destroying me. As a father now I can’t imagine the pain he’s been through and how I honestly wouldn’t be able to handle it. Fuck this shit
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Postby whatabout tim » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:33 pm

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Postby David Lobster Wallets » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:24 pm

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A three-year Al Jazeera investigation into the U.S. gun lobby has uncovered an effort by an Australian political party to seek millions of dollars in political funding while offering to soften strict, anti-gun laws in Australia.

Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit used concealed cameras to track ‘Pauline Hanson’s One Nation’, a right-wing, anti-immigration party, as representatives travelled to Washington, D.C. to hold meetings with the National Rifle Association and other lobby groups, as well as the energy giant Koch Industries.

One Nation’s Chief of Staff James Ashby was accompanied on the U.S. visit by Steve Dickson, the party’s leader in the Australian state of Queensland and a candidate in upcoming Australian elections.

Ashby and Dickson were recorded seeking up to $US20 million for their election war chest while promising to soften laws, put in place following a massacre in Australia in 1996.

The strict Australian gun laws have often been condemned by the NRA.

Al Jazeera approached all the groups and individuals featured in this programme. None responded to our findings.
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Postby alaska » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:32 pm

im really torn up about these suicides

this country is so fucking traumatized
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Postby joe » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:37 pm

gauchebag wrote:research lol? mentally disturbed people shoot people with guns. what is there to research? make the guns illegal do the logical and obvious thing that will protect people. suing the gun manufacturer doesn't really seem to do anything. gives them less money to lobby with maybe?


considering there is so much public opposition to state authorities regulating gun sales, if you hold gun sellers and manufacturers liable it incentivizes them to "voluntarily" limit sales/restrict sales/engage in background checks/etc. also taking money away from capitalists that can be used to lobby against broader restrictions is unambiguously good
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Postby chowder julius » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:45 pm

joe wrote:
gauchebag wrote:research lol? mentally disturbed people shoot people with guns. what is there to research? make the guns illegal do the logical and obvious thing that will protect people. suing the gun manufacturer doesn't really seem to do anything. gives them less money to lobby with maybe?


considering there is so much public opposition to state authorities regulating gun sales, if you hold gun sellers and manufacturers liable it incentivizes them to "voluntarily" limit sales/restrict sales/engage in background checks/etc. also taking money away from capitalists that can be used to lobby against broader restrictions is unambiguously good


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_liability
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Postby Shotfrog » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:49 pm

I can only imagine going through something like Sandy Hook and then, six years later, realizing that nothing has changed or will change, and by their actions people have proven that they don't actually care.
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Postby chowder julius » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:51 pm

and see also https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/katrina-vanden-heuvel-the-case-for-gun-liability-laws/2013/09/24/e0e8adb4-2457-11e3-b3e9-d97fb087acd6_story.html

Knives. Automobiles. Cold medicine. Alcohol. Cigarettes. Coffee.

What do these items have in common?

They’re all held to a higher safety standard than firearms.

Because of product-liability law, manufacturers must equip them with proper warnings, limitations and built-in designs that enhance their safety.

If they don’t, consumers can sue them for harm caused by the product. And all consumer products manufacturers are required to ensure that their products are free of design defects and don’t threaten public safety.

Guns, as Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Project has said, are “the only consumer product in America with no federal safety oversight.”
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Postby joe » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:13 pm

thank you cj
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Postby Feech La Manna » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:14 pm

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Guns, as Jonathan Lowy of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Project has said, are “the only consumer product in America with no federal safety oversight.”


One of those things that you know is true but looks absolutely insane when you say it/write it out.
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Postby baka baka » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 am

No more discussion in here about the Utrecht shooting? ok
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Postby mego » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:53 am

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One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has been caught on hidden camera appearing to suggest the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, where a gunman shot and killed 35 people at the Tasmanian former prison colony, was a government conspiracy.

The footage is part of the undercover, three-year long investigation run by Al Jazeera that exposed the Australian political party earlier this week trying to water down the nation’s gun laws.

In one video released by the news network, Senator Hanson is secretly filmed saying she has “a lot of questions” about Port Arthur.

“An MP said it would actually take a massacre in Tasmania to change the gun laws in Australia,” Senator Hanson tells Rodger Muller, an Al Jazeera journalist who for three years pretended to be the leader of a fictitious firearm advocate group called Gun Rights Australia, an identity he established to infiltrate One Nation.

“Haven’t you heard that? Have a look at it. It was said on the floor of parliament.”

In another piece of footage, Senator Hanson is sitting with her chief of staff James Ashby when they discuss other conspiracy theories.

“That whole September 11 thing, too,” Mr Ashby says, immediately after the group brought up the MPs comments about Port Arthur.

“Those shots. They were precision shots,” Senator Hanson responds.

“Check the number out. I’ve read a lot and I have read the book on it, Port Arthur. A lot of questions there.”
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Postby Feech La Manna » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:41 pm

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I thought it was a harmless phase
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Postby Ted Pikul » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:07 am

how is there no probable cause to arrest her?
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Ted Pikul wrote:how is there no probable cause to arrest her?


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