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Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:59 am
by Robo-Chachi
I suppose it is likely the El Paso shooting triggered the Dayton shooting?

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:00 am
by mcwop23
Robo-Chachi wrote:I suppose it is likely the El Paso shooting triggered the Dayton shooting?


literally

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:03 am
by Gutslab
dusky wrote:since I’ve left the states 5 days ago there’s been 3 mass shootings. really wish I didn’t ever have to go back to that stupid shithole.


I was out the US for a few weeks and felt the stress being lifted, the stress related to being shot for a no reason. I didn't realize how large that was, even at subliminal levels.
I'm desensitized to gun news like many others, but when away I didn't receive any stimuli to it. Then it hits you like a brick wall when you're back home, and the first thing you see on the news is all the reports about the recent shootings in the last day, and that's just where you live. I can relate to the feelings of hopelessness in this epidemic, especially when you compare to what other countries have been able to do to curb the issue. NZ has done more gun reform legislation in the time since their mass shooting, than the US has done for many years. The country needs to treat gun control as a nonpartisan problem and the govt leaders need to stop being cowards and take action, and if they cant, they should be voted out. The NRA should be viewed as a terrorist organization, they actively enable gun violence and deter attempts at legislation.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:24 am
by Kenny
identikit wrote:
Kenny wrote:Yeah anybody hoping for legislative change is fooling themselves

What do you propose instead of "fooling ourselves"? Roll over and give up, sit back and just go "oh well, here comes doom"? That's just silly and lazy at the same time. This country had laws where castration was punishment for homosexual activity. And not that long ago, racial segregation. Voting rights for women are only 100 years old. Will we see a legislative change in the next year? Extremely unlikely. But that doesn't mean we can't get there eventually.

I'm not really suggesting there is anything we could do about it, though I'm not suggesting we shouldn't try

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:25 am
by zamboni
i felt a weird sense of pride in being a person actively interested in current events, news, the world, blag

but today is like, i can't read about this one. i don't know

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:27 am
by mcwop23
which one

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:30 am
by joe
We're all on the same side friends. We can all empathize with folks' fears, but also reinforce that guns don't actually help with self defense for anyone, even the marginalized fighting back.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:37 am
by Feech La Manna


incredible

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:39 am
by murderhorn
find a good gun tweet from someone not Dan Hodges

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:44 am
by Durham
Unimaginable disgust waking up to texts like “ugh this country man” and scrolling Twitter and seeing thoughts and prayers posts being dragged, only to realize they’re referencing a totally different double digit slaughter

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:49 am
by jewels
A Philadelphia massacre was prevented because the shooter collecting weapons and gear was openly talking about it to customers at Walmart.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:53 am
by Amblin
Durham wrote:Unimaginable disgust waking up to texts like “ugh this country man” and scrolling Twitter and seeing thoughts and prayers posts being dragged, only to realize they’re referencing a totally different double digit slaughter


I had just woke up and saw the “9 dead” part and felt some relief that the El Paso death toll was adjusted and it wasn’t as bad

Then a moment later I sort of re-read it and realize it’s not El Paso

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:59 am
by Shotfrog
Feech La Manna wrote:

incredible

It’s time to ban Night Trap.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:01 am
by terminus
it's going to take an assassination attempt on a republican president to get anything to change, right? would that even be enough?

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:03 am
by Shotfrog
terminus wrote:it's going to take an assassination attempt on a republican president to get anything to change, right? would that even be enough?

No, because somebody shot up several members of Congress already.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:03 am
by easy
big zorb wrote:Anyway thanks to everyone who lectured me about being reasonable in the face of literal death threats I'm out cya!!!


come on

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:03 am
by jewels
That would lead to more guns

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:04 am
by identikit
terminus wrote:it's going to take an assassination attempt on a republican president to get anything to change, right? would that even be enough?


Guns would get even cheaper, sales would go up, and we might see "buy 4 pay 3" deals, other than that, not sure what you mean.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:08 am
by MikeS
Congress would start issuing tax credits

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:11 am
by elo
A lot of these mass murderers go to prison, get fit, paid and often married
this is a career path in America

you should be more ashamed of yourselves than you already are

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:12 am
by terminus
scalise was just a paltry majority whip when his shooting happened!!

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:16 am
by DasLofGang
reagan's press secretary got shot in the face during his assassination attempt, so we passed a gun control bill named after him 12 years later, which republicans then proceeded to dismantle over the following decade. in conclusion, more guns

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:18 am
by Durham


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Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:23 am
by DasLofGang
if the vegas guy had been brown it'd have been treated as a mini 9/11, meaning at least some (potentially additional, depending) droning/bombing of whichever country his family was from

as it were, though.....eh what're ya gonna do

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:29 am
by tgk
At this point you have to assume foreign terrorist organizations have stopped bothering to target us.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:30 am
by DasLofGang
can't help but wonder about effective ways to disabuse people of the perception that they'll turn into rambo and save the day when it's their time to shine, as opposed to the far more likely outcome of blowing their own balls off because their hand is shaking so bad

it's like a hydra of machismo and dunning kruger and reality denial you'd be fighting, i don't think something like those canadian workplace safety PSAs is going to get through

how do you sell You're Not the Badass You Think You Are to a country full of...whatever the christ this is

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:33 am
by light rail coyote
Durham wrote:

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dunking on bad takes for the sake of it isn't helpful in a situation like this but this tweet is genuinely offensive.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:36 am
by light rail coyote
I'm also getting increasingly paranoid given how much white nationalists have focused on portland as a target.

we've had a lot of smaller acts of violence, stabbings, assaults, stuff like that, but it only feel a like a matter of time before someone decides to shoot up a farmer's market or public park or protest or something.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:40 am
by DasLofGang
"Content that praises, supports or represents the shooting or anyone responsible violates our Community Standards, and we will continue to remove as soon as we identify it," a Facebook spokesperson said.

Re: fuck guns

PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:44 am
by Rumpleforeskin
DasLofGang wrote:can't help but wonder about effective ways to disabuse people of the perception that they'll turn into rambo and save the day when it's their time to shine, as opposed to the far more likely outcome of blowing their own balls off because their hand is shaking so bad

it's like a hydra of machismo and dunning kruger and reality denial you'd be fighting, i don't think something like those canadian workplace safety PSAs is going to get through

how do you sell You're Not the Badass You Think You Are to a country full of...whatever the christ this is


I've tried this with gun owners, asking what their literal plan was to fight Govt tyranny via the 2nd Amendment. Did they think they were going to take on a municipal police dept or the US military with a kicked over kitchen table and a personal collection of handguns and longrifles? Are they part of a militia? Is there an escape plan? Meetup point? I couldn't help but be dismissive about it, it's just a ridiculous notion. They always start grabbing at straws, bringing up the Constitution and intention of the founding fathers, then shifting to better safe than sorry, and then the Govt wants to take our guns and you're brainwashed. Never a real answer and they get all chest-puffy and angry.