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Postby blab » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:36 pm

has the "we can't fire w/ fire" about scary-angry-dudes-who-might-want-to-kill-you argument been proved. i'm not tryin to be devils advocate...but i am being that so...i'm going to stop posting lol

look the recent shootings have got my mind going absolutely bonkers and i wanna arm myself??!! brass knuckles are legal here now i can eliminate my opponents w those
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:38 pm

nah, you're fine blab. your concerns are understandable. i just think they can be addressed with solutions that present less risk to you and your loved ones than purchasing a gun does.
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Postby blab » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:39 pm

point me to the solution friend
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:39 pm

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Postby Poptone » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:42 pm

walt whitman wrote:
blab wrote:i’m afraid of horny freaks who go in disguise and infiltrate your home. is this not common

you sound dumb.

throw away your gun


just throwing it away would be a very bad thing to do!
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Postby Poptone » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:44 pm

if i was not a white guy i would honestly think hard about purchasing some sort of firearm.

but then not being white would also make me very scared about doing so

in conclusion, guns and america are kind of crummy
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Postby Poptone » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:45 pm

i think it might be cool to have an antique WWI rifle or something.

or maybe a musket with one of those phonograph bore ends that i can use in an elmer fudd costume
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:49 pm

guns are often pretty impressive pieces of engineering and even works of art in certain cases!

it's just, ya know, they kill huge numbers of people so they gotta go.
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Postby Poptone » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:52 pm

can you even get ammo for a gun that old tho?

the bayonet is the most dangerous part of it at this point, i'd think.
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:56 pm

depending on which wwi rifle you are talking about, you can def get the ammo. typically people super into that stuff will also be into packing their own cartridges, which gives even more customization options. some of the older popular guns don't even have cartridges, and you pack in the powder etc for each shot the old fashioned way.
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Postby Shotfrog » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:57 pm

Feels like I’m always packing my own cartridge tbh
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Postby worrywort » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:58 pm

chris hooks wrote about the false feeling of safety/power a gun gives you, and why it's illusory. the headline/twitter blurb addresses a different aspect of the article, but if you go down to the part where he mentions his dad in the FBI, that's about where this part starts.

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Postby DasLofGang » Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:59 pm

farmer wrote:some of the older hip opinion boards don't even have conductor, and you post in the free for all etc for each lol the old fashioned way.
You remind me of Don Knotts.
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:01 pm

Poptone wrote:can you even get ammo for a gun that old tho?

the bayonet is the most dangerous part of it at this point, i'd think.


yeah, they still make muskets and most musket ammo can be used on older, antique weapons too because the technology hasn't evolved much. my dad has a musket, it's fun to play with.
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:02 pm

worrywort wrote:chris hooks wrote about the false feeling of safety/power a gun gives you, and why it's illusory. the headline/twitter blurb addresses a different aspect of the article, but if you go down to the part where he mentions his dad in the FBI, that's about where this part starts.


yeah, in general, people are absolutely trash at assessing risk and probabilities and what means are effective for mitigation of those risks. gun perverts exploit that vulnerability.
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:03 pm

we should absolutely ban videogames, though, for reasons outside of gun violence.
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Postby farmer » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:06 pm

tbh we should ban all the things i don't personally care for.
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Postby Poptone » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:06 pm

farmer wrote:depending on which wwi rifle you are talking about, you can def get the ammo. typically people super into that stuff will also be into packing their own cartridges, which gives even more customization options. some of the older popular guns don't even have cartridges, and you pack in the powder etc for each shot the old fashioned way.


i guess i shouldn't be surprised by that
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:08 pm

farmer wrote:tbh we should ban all the things i don't personally care for.


i think this sounds good.
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Postby theta » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:37 pm

im a woman who takes public transit everywhere (even at night! alone! gasp!) and i can count the number of times ive felt unsafe due to strangers on one hand. it blows my mind that anyone could be scared enough of strangers that they own a machine capable of taking human life (and im not talking about cars here!)
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Postby potentialgetawaydriver » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:41 pm

My coworker owns 70+ guns and keeps a loaded one on his nightstand.
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Postby virile » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:58 pm

farmer wrote:guns are often pretty impressive pieces of engineering and even works of art in certain cases!

it's just, ya know, they kill huge numbers of people so they gotta go.


your ammo choices probably go up just like throw pebbles and shit in there you're good i bet
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Postby sympathy » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:00 pm

virile wrote:
farmer wrote:guns are often pretty impressive pieces of engineering and even works of art


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Postby super gas » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:38 pm

edit: nm
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Postby super gas » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:39 pm

blah guns suck

edit: excellent top super gas, you doofus
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Postby goofy's dead wife » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:08 pm

blab wrote:has the "we can't fire w/ fire" about scary-angry-dudes-who-might-want-to-kill-you argument been proved. i'm not tryin to be devils advocate...but i am being that so...i'm going to stop posting lol

look the recent shootings have got my mind going absolutely bonkers and i wanna arm myself??!! brass knuckles are legal here now i can eliminate my opponents w those


i would legitimately like to read one of these studies that accounts for like, environment and usage i guess.

about a year ago i was living with an indigenous non-binary femme presenting sex worker that received similarly credible threats from a john that felt jilted by them and stalked our home. they bought a gun in response to that. i can't say it made me feel safer but i also can't say i blame them for reacting in that way. i felt pretty similar reading both you and zorb's stories. it's very possible that it's still much more likely that that weapon would've been used on someone in our house but given that trans panic is a legitimate defense in most of the united states and the police wouldn't have cared about any of us had we died.... yeah i dunno.

i think about that, and then i compare it to the last time i thought about when i was living in a house with a gun, with my grandfather who would go on racist rants and tell me about how to use the shotgun he kept by his bed in case a black person broke into the house. i mostly thought about turning that gun on myself. it was pretty easy to see why it would be more likely to be used on us in the csae of a breakin. (this was also in the exact same area of the united states you live in iirc, i'm well aware of how terrifying that frontier justice shit can be to face in person)

i can't imagine that the latter scenario, which is about fifty million times fucking stupider isn't much, much more common than the former. i don't actually have an answer to your question but i just wanted to reemphasize that you aren't stupid and i completely get the perspective you're coming from.
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Postby Catullus » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:19 pm

opi wrote:like i don't think it's possible for catullus to be duplicitous, whereas pretty much every other poster at the time struck me as having one foot in shinra
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Postby goofy's dead wife » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:33 pm

yeah.... i've seen that before but going back to it after typing those thoughts out so i could have them down. comparing it to how i would imagine any sympathetic situation such as the former one i wrote out playing out... i want to believe there's a blindspot in that research because it would at least give some semblance of power over aggressors. it just seems like another one of those situations where i want to believe in something in order to feel some sort of power over a situation (i think this is also the case with anyone that's mentioned an interest in owning a gun in this thread, at least as far as i can tell, i haven't read every page of it.) but the reality is just that there's no easy way to gain control over said situations.

it fuckin' sucks.
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Postby wolfie » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:37 pm

Guns are a feeling.
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Postby wolfie » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:38 pm

Walk around with a P226 in your waist next time you go to stop & shop and you'll understand
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