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Postby VHGisdead » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:08 am

the Rhombus?
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Postby k_uger » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:31 pm

how dare you refer to Guy that way
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Postby Eyeball Kid » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:53 am

OK, the second set of 12/30/19 RIPPED.
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Postby Althea » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:25 pm

Only now just don don'd me that Fish wore a reverse coloured dress for 12/31 III. I knew there was something different at the time but it didn't register.
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Postby k_uger » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:54 am

been listening to that Tweezer a lot... it’s interesting to try and contextualize it with the other significant jams of 3.0 (and a little beyond)

I think the 5 minute centerpiece of the jam is one of the best passages of improvised music they’ve ever played, which puts it alongside the Nassau Tweezer, for instance

the first 20 minutes of the jam are very old school Tweezer, with a great, straightforward peak that hits harder than this description gives it credit for, but isn’t maybe as notable on its own as say 12/28/12, 1/2/16, or 12/29/18

I really really enjoy the jam immediately after the Eno section, which I’ve been thinking of as a Miles - On the Corner-lite jam, with Page’s Rhodes playing being particularly fierce before things mellow into a Phishier groove as Trey returns to a lead voice... once again reminiscent of Nassau’s post-peak jam, which I think is extremely underrated in the shadow of the whammy-driven bliss peak

I’ve vacillated a bit on the final peak, which does have a nice, psychedelic underpinning to it, and features a fantastic NOTE that recalled the 2 minute Hood note peak from the previous evening... once again, taken alone this final section is not all that and a bag of chips, but it’s still a v v nice bag of chips, and I’d be thrilled to have it cap off any jam, let alone one in which we were already as elated as we were in the context of the rest of the ride we had all just been on

overall I don’t think the scope of the jamming is as diverse as the Tahoe Tweezer, and I don’t think it features as bombastic a SINGULAR moment in the jam as Trey’s woosplosion (this term is officially retired as of the end of this sentence), but force me to choose and I’ll take likely the one I was at with the improvisational centerpiece that couldn’t be more perfectly composed for my ears... when Mike brought things down to that simple of a line... you knew it was for real... Fish!!!... Page!!! (Page almost whiffed on the synth tone, kudos for sticking with it :D).... and then Trey stepping out of the way until it was time for him to weave in between Page’s notes... ugh, so good.
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Postby Franco » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:18 pm

I still need more time with it to flesh out my theory that it’s something of a crowning achievement for 3.0 that pulls themes and vibes from all its eras gracefully.

The end peak section is ok to me because 1. the good shit had already happened and 2. It represented the swangin’ honky tonk tip Treys been on since BD. The middle is pure Bethel Waves in that it was given time to develop and breathe and not in a have-to-climb way. That’s the kinda shit you can feel. There’s also that mounting, sustained Trey stuff that everybody is on board for from Dicks Light (19:30) in there too.
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Postby Franco » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:30 pm

When you’re looking for things that’s support your theory you find them
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Postby gauchebag » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:19 pm

Franco wrote:When you’re looking for things that’s support your theory you find them


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Postby VHGisdead » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:31 pm

I'm not good at identifying these connections but I recognize what you're getting at, Franco. There are lots of different spots that feel familiar to me even if I can't point to specific jams. But there is definitely some Alpharetta Carini in there
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Postby Franco » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:43 pm

I love that Carini. I’m really bad at annotating in that way too, especially as the years pile up. point being there was a lot of familiar in there BUT fresh and kinda monumental. not at all in a bad way.
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Postby rich uncle skeleton » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:06 pm

Love the posts on the Tweezer y’all, but especially resonating with this:
Franco wrote:The middle is pure Bethel Waves in that it was given time to develop and breathe and not in a have-to-climb way. That’s the kinda shit you can feel.

A friend compared to Spirit of Eden and that’s been sticking with me on relisten
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Postby Althea » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:55 pm

I keep hearing the Eno/YLT comparisons (and I apparently need to listen to Spirit of Eden), and I get it, but like (you should know here that I'm very stoned) this is Phish, man, this is the thing I get from them and nobody else, the four of them trusting each other and all 20,000 of us to step out into the abyss together and play that openly and vulnerably, and have it land so well with everyone in the moment, yeah that only happens at Phish. And it doesn't happen in quite this way all that often - thinking of the Greek Light in 2010, the Magnaball 46 Days and the Dicks Disease in 2015, the Forum Fuego in 2018. I know I go on about the same list of jams every 10 pages or so but it's great to have a new one on the list.
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Postby VHGisdead » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:02 am

Love it
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Postby VHGisdead » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:02 am

I was also thinking about that Forum Fuego
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Postby Franco » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:32 pm

Just stumbled upon another tentacle of that Tweezer - Gorge Sally 8/7/09 getting started about 13:00
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Postby guy forget » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:34 pm

but like (you should know here that I'm very stoned) this is Phish, man,


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Postby k_uger » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:44 am

hell yea, Althea

I mostly use the Eno comparison as my favorite artist (non-Phish or Carly Rae category) and mostly from a standpoint of the tones and use of repetition not being as much directly similar but very reminiscent of The Big Ship in the sense that they’re tones and melodies I just want to climb into and live in... forever

(see also: What’s the Use)
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Postby k_uger » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:13 pm

omfg the Providence Hood

still one of the very best things they played last year
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Postby Althea » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:58 pm

I gotta revisit Providence, I LOVED the MSG Hood, prob the best I've seen except for Magnaball (and every other Hood of course because that song is magic).

I wonder if including Another Green World on the 12/31 preshow music had anything to do with the Tweezer jam the night before.
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Postby VHGisdead » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:23 pm

Huh. I'd guess it's more about the "green" in the title but it could be both!
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Postby Althea » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:24 pm

Oh jeez you're right, that's why.

Proud that this year I was sober enough to try and decipher the pre-set III music theme. Also I said this to someone during the show, but not rolling during a NYE stunt for the first time made it seem like it was moving in slow motion.
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Postby VHGisdead » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:48 am

I could have sworn I made a post last night about Alpharetta 18 Hood being my fav that I've seen, even though MSG this year was really cool. Anyway, Providence is better, wow. Best in a few years right?
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Postby Franco » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:53 am

I deleted that post. You shouldn’t have said all that other stuff
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Postby VHGisdead » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:33 am

Franco, wow
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Postby Althea » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:25 am

Franco wrote:Just stumbled upon another tentacle of that Tweezer - Gorge Sally 8/7/09 getting started about 13:00


Oh wow, totally, thank you for reminding us about this jam.
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Postby k_uger » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:25 pm

and about tentacle porn.
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Postby guy forget » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:34 am

Franco wrote:tfw you’re walking down rubadub square
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Postby k_uger » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:16 pm

u gotta trip a lotta acid b4 u can walk down a square
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Postby k_uger » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:31 pm

k no announcement today but since I don’t really post in the GD thread anymore:

I REALLY like the look of Lock’n this year... will lightly consider going to a non-Phish festival as a 32 year old human
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Postby Franco » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:34 pm

Lookin like no summer for me. Atlantic City that time of year feels impossible :|
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