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Postby futurist » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:08 am

Evans’ Attorney, Jack Schulz: When did you first meet Tracy Evans?

Founders Manager Dominic Ryan: 2011, 2012. We had mutual friends before working there, so …

Schulz: OK, So you knew Tracy prior to his employment at Founders?

Ryan: We met a few times, yes.

Schulz: OK, are you aware Tracy is Black?

Ryan: What do you mean by that?

Schulz: Are you aware Tracy is African-American?

Ryan: I’m not sure of his lineage so I can’t answer that.

Schulz: Alright. Are you aware that Tracy is a man of color?

Ryan: What do you mean by that?

Schulz: No? Do you know … You don’t know what it means for someone to be a white person or a Black person?

Ryan: I’m asking for clarification.

Schulz: You don’t need any. I can promise you that. We’ll keep the record as is. Someone’s skin color. A white …

Ryan: So that’s what you’re referring to?

Schulz: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Ryan: OK. Yes, I know the difference in skin tone.

Schulz: Are you able to identify individuals by their skin tone?

Ryan: What do you mean “identify”?

Schulz: I mean have you ever looked at Tracy Evans in your entire life? Have you? That’s a … that’s a genuine question.

Founders Attorney: Objection. Argumentative.

Founders Attorney: You can answer.

Ryan: Yes.

Schulz: And did you ever realize that Tracy’s skin [is] Black?

Ryan: That’s not … I mean, is his skin different from mine? Yes.

Schulz: How?

Ryan: What do you mean “how”? It’s a different color.

Schulz: And what is the difference of that color?

Ryan: It’s darker.

Schulz: And that means?

Founders Attorney: Objection. Vague question.

Schulz: I mean, we could … This could be a one-sentence answer, you know. So by your … I guess your testimony is you have no idea if Tracy is a minority, if he’s African-American?

Ryan: I don’t know Tracy’s lineage, so I can’t speculate on whether he’s … if he’s from Africa or not.

Schulz: What do you mean lineage, from Africa?

Ryan: No. I mean, like, I don’t know his DNA.

Schulz: Have you ever met Black people who aren’t from Africa?

Ryan: Excuse me?

Schulz: Have you ever met a Black person born in America?

Ryan: Yes.

Schulz: And you were able … Have you ever met a Black person who didn’t tell you they were Black?

Ryan: Can you rephrase that?

Schulz: Is Barack Obama Black?

Founders Attorney: Objection.

Schulz: To your knowledge?

Ryan: I’ve never met Barack Obama so I don’t …

Schulz: So you don’t know if Barack Obama is Black? What about Michael Jordan? Do you know if Michael Jordan is Black?

Founders Attorney: Objection

Ryan: I’ve never met him.

Schulz: So you don’t know him? What about Kwame Kilpatrick?

Ryan: Never met him.

Schulz: To your knowledge, was Kwame Kilpatrick Black?

Ryan: I …

Schulz: You don’t know?

Ryan: I don’t know.
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Postby shankly » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:13 am

our country is so dumb and depraved that "i'm actually too stupid too be racist" is going to turn out to be a get out of jail free card for these idiots

hopefully bars stop giving founders tap space
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Postby garbiel » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:17 am

shankly wrote:our country is so dumb and depraved that "i'm actually too stupid too be racist" is going to turn out to be a get out of jail free card for these idiots

hopefully bars stop giving founders tap space


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Postby futurist » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:18 am

most all of Detroit has already pulled Founder's. pretty sure the Eastern Market Beer Fest and Michigan Beer Advocate have already made statements too. unfortunately this story probably won't make it out of Detroit though and Founder's has a pretty wide reach nowadays.
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Postby brent » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:40 pm

that is awful, fuck founders

there is a thread regarding this on the beeradvocate forums that is unbelievably terrible. that place seems to have literal nazis posting their hate speech any chance they get
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Postby VHGisdead » Wed Oct 23, 2019 7:20 pm

Holy shit
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Postby warmjets » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:15 pm

Won't be difficult for me to never buy a Founders product again
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Postby deadwolfbones » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:16 pm

brent wrote:that is awful, fuck founders

there is a thread regarding this on the beeradvocate forums that is unbelievably terrible. that place seems to have literal nazis posting their hate speech any chance they get


I try to get involved in these threads whenever they pop up but it's such a dispiriting battle.
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Postby SonicBoom » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:36 pm

Didn't buy much founders as it was, but I guess I'm not buying cbs this year. Too much beer out there to support dumb shit like that.
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:28 pm

Um... what?

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Postby viachicago » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:41 pm

be sure to line up early folks!
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Postby gazedo » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:59 pm

Been in Houston for work the last few days. Really enjoyed drinking a ton of TX beer. Also had a pariah 4xdh envie pale ale that was one of best hoppy beers I've had in a while. Coming home with as much live oak as I can fit in my suitcase.
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Postby beefbroth inthe shitpipes » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:59 pm

Wish we still had extra gappy glasses. He faded on me. :(
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Postby deadwolfbones » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:15 pm

Still got mine!
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Postby acidity regulator » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:34 pm

mine broke :(
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Postby gazedo » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:23 pm

I may have a few extra kicking around back in LA but i wont be able to check for a few weeks.
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Postby Debbie » Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:26 pm

I ate mine in a drunken stupor
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Postby Birds vs Worms » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 pm

gazedo wrote:I may have a few extra kicking around back in LA but i wont be able to check for a few weeks.


Hit up D&Q Beer Station while you're in Houston. Tell Brandon that Diego says 'sup'
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Postby brent » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:45 pm

i’ve been kinda beered out lately but picked up a 4 pack of lagunitas willettized coffee stout today on a whim and holy moly that is a good beer esp at that price point. i swear i’ve had this beer in the past and straight up disliked it, but this years is awesome
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Postby warmjets » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:07 pm

lagunitas seasonals and one-offs are usually pretty great
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Postby honkduh » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:14 pm

brent wrote:i’ve been kinda beered out lately but picked up a 4 pack of lagunitas willettized coffee stout today on a whim and holy moly that is a good beer esp at that price point. i swear i’ve had this beer in the past and straight up disliked it, but this years is awesome


Nice. I passed on it last year cuz they switched to bombers, glad it’s back in 12oz
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:35 am

Woodshop 13 got postponed (canceled) due to ABC stopping it for not technically being a private even since tickets were sold through Brown Paper Bag. I'm insanely bummed but I'm still heading down to SD tomorrow for a private bottle share at Dr. Bill's, which I'm pretty excited about. Also I'll get to try Howlin' Rays for the first time. Should be a good weekend!
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Postby deadwolfbones » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:29 pm

brent wrote:i’ve been kinda beered out lately but picked up a 4 pack of lagunitas willettized coffee stout today on a whim and holy moly that is a good beer esp at that price point. i swear i’ve had this beer in the past and straight up disliked it, but this years is awesome


every year has been great (going back to when it was High Westified) IMO
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Postby shankly » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:10 pm

New Belgium is getting bought out by Kirin, pending a vote from employee-owners. Not hugely surprising since pretty much every other brewery operating at their scale has done something similar, but it would’ve been nice to see an independent, employee-owned brewery succeed as a national brand.
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Postby what the schmuck » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:54 pm

super interesting because in the footnotes it also mentions that they will own magnolia in SF which was part owned by dick cantwell who flipped his shit when AB bought elysian and he left the company only to start that brewery there because he has a non compete in WA. and now another multi-national got his girlfriend a sweet deal and he's getting bought out again.
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Postby REAL BASED SLOB » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:21 pm

ah shit i hadn't heard the founders news there and bought a 17 and 18 CBS the other week from the beer shop. wondered why those had been hauled out
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Postby warmjets » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:13 pm

REAL BASED SLOB wrote:ah shit i hadn't heard the founders news there and bought a 17 and 18 CBS the other week from the beer shop. wondered why those had been hauled out


You're gonna have to pour those down the drain now. Sorry.
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Postby what the schmuck » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:33 pm



Whoa shit! Hype cans on the reg!
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Postby acidity regulator » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:31 pm

going to the mikkeller copenhagen beer celebration next year. gonna turn 40 that week so fuck it i'm beer
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