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Postby Tar Pit » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:00 am

speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:



it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)

it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead

I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.
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Postby Wrong Titus » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:39 am

Tar Pit wrote:
speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:



it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)

it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead

I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.


Cool, just listened to Under the Bushes and Mag. I really like the historical context, in fact I wish he'd spend more time on that.

Definitely some strange takes--he doesn't seem to keen on the weird/snippety GBV songs. Also, did he have to edit in his pronunciation of Cobra Verde in the Mag ep? (not that he pronounced it correctly), it had that Simpsons-y post production choppy ADL thing going on each time it came up.

And while I know it would be insane to tackle every release, it does seem skipping NiMA, Tonics and Twisted Chasers, and Waved Out results in pretty big pieces of the story not being told. Still! good stuff.
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Postby bluelips » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:11 am

i bought tonics and twister chasers on vinyl forever ago but then sold it on ebay for probably 1/10th of what it goes for now
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Postby Wrong Titus » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 am

I don't have anything that valuable, but I briefly bought all the new Fading Captain stuff on vinyl when it started, and it's all worth a decent amount now I think. I don't think I'll part with it though--Circus Devils Ringworm Interiors makes so much more sense as a weird record you occasionally stumble upon in a stack rather than one of 200 GBV choices on Spotify.
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Postby Wrong Titus » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:31 am

And while we're at it--I gotta say, I noticed the new Not in My Airforce reissue separates those final acoustic snippets from the actual LP and into an untitled 7" (kind of like with Under the Bushes). It may have been Bob's wish, but I can't imagine that album without that strange little hangover of an ending.
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Postby Tar Pit » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:15 pm

Wrong Titus wrote:
Tar Pit wrote:
speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:



it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)

it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead

I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.


Cool, just listened to Under the Bushes and Mag. I really like the historical context, in fact I wish he'd spend more time on that.

Definitely some strange takes--he doesn't seem to keen on the weird/snippety GBV songs. Also, did he have to edit in his pronunciation of Cobra Verde in the Mag ep? (not that he pronounced it correctly), it had that Simpsons-y post production choppy ADL thing going on each time it came up.

And while I know it would be insane to tackle every release, it does seem skipping NiMA, Tonics and Twisted Chasers, and Waved Out results in pretty big pieces of the story not being told. Still! good stuff.

Yeah, I wish he went over some of the weird LPs like Tonic and King Shit, as well as the solo stuff, but I suppose he still can. He did an episode on some of the 90's EPs and a Tobin solo record, so I can see it happening.

I just randomly find myself shouting WHAT? at the podcast, which is to be expected from opinions on such a weird band. I'm pretty sure he mentions he doesn't care for It's Like Soul Man, literally one of my favorite GBV tracks and glides over Weed King, a top 5 track for me. Also makes a weird comment about Bob singing about weed. Still a lot of fun and I'm glad it exists.
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Postby Tar Pit » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:26 pm

I also recently finally heard the Bee Thousand Director's Cut and holy crap, that record would have been a flop if it wasn't edited down. The flow on the released version is masterful and it's honestly nuts how important pacing and song selection really plays into the greatness of the record.

There were a few cuts on it that were really cool though. I actually dig these versions more than their released versions (well, at least Hunting Knife, which I always wanted to have traditional drums).



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Postby walt » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:51 pm

Tar Pit wrote:
speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:



it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)

it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead

I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.


I dont think he says he doesnt like Alien Lanes, just that he thinks it’s a step down from Bee Thousand and is an album with some stone cold classics and a lot of filler. I agree that Bee Thousand basically doesnt have a skippable track, while Alien Lanes might fly higher at moments but as some big dips.

Though he calls out Big Chief Chinese Restaurant and King of Caroline as filler. That’s definitely nonsense
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Postby walt » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:52 pm

Love that version My Valuable Hunting Knife, though!
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Postby bluelips » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:32 pm

he does a ranking of all the albums and put alien lanes ridiculously low. like behind a bunch of 2010s stuff wtf
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Postby Althea » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:17 pm

Whoa it's disorienting to hear the fully rocked out Hunting Knife after all these years with the original doinky drum sounds, it does fully rock though
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Postby walt » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 pm

bluelips wrote:he does a ranking of all the albums and put alien lanes ridiculously low. like behind a bunch of 2010s stuff wtf


Yeah that’s a wild take
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Postby walt » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:28 pm

Was just poking around their discogs and they have elliott smith credited as playing organ on a few songs on isolation drills. Anyone know if that’s true?
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Postby speakers » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:32 pm

it’s true, they shared a producer (rob schnapf)
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Postby walt » Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:41 pm

Well there ya go
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Postby Mesh » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:20 pm

bluelips wrote:he does a ranking of all the albums and put alien lanes ridiculously low. like behind a bunch of 2010s stuff wtf


There is a faction out there that still hangs on every GBV utterance and let me tell you, they are super weird about rating the last 20 years of albums.

I have seen some fucked up arbitrary shit called the best record of their career, it's mental.
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Postby Autarch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 pm

No, you’re mental. You can’t tell them how to feel.
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Postby walt » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:00 am

They’ve definitely put out real good stuff post-2000. I’m only ever able to catch an album or song here and there but some immediately entered my personal canon (Space Gun, Keep it in Motion, for example). But if a GBV completist tells me something like Zeppelin Over China is legit, I’ll give it a spin. It’d be hard for me to get passed the special place Alien Lanes holds for me (though again I personally put it squarely behind Bee Thousand), but Bob and co are still putting out absolute bangers left and right. It’s possible he superseded is early work by sheer force of will. Probably not but i love entertaining the idea.

Dont count out Bob Pollard.
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Postby Mesh » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:02 am

Don't get me wrong, I give every record a chance. Very little sticks. The only song on Mirrored Aztec I'm ever likely to return to is Bunco Men, which was already 10 years old when it came out the first time 20 years ago. I'd love to feel differently more often. I almost never do.

For good vibes sake, maybe I'll post songs I like that are less than 15 years old. Trust Them Now is pretty solid.

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Postby bluelips » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:35 am

i don’t think i’ve heard anything post 2005 or whenever the band ended the first time. i’d definitely check out a mix of newer stuff
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Postby speakers » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:26 am

bluelips wrote:
Personal compilation from official & unofficial GbV non-LP sources, carefully remastered and researched to place into a more coherent chronological framework.

This is the 2020 Revision: "The Quarantined Suitcase"

-anazgnos 4/3/2020

Somewhere Sometime: 1978-1984

01 Piece - 1980
02 Somewhere Sometime - 1978
03 Less Active Railroad - 1980
04 Trying to Make it Work Again - 1981
05 I'm Just Doing My Job - 1982
06 Disappearing Act - 1983 - The Crowd
07 Eloise - 1983 - The Crowd
08 Linda's Lottery - 1983 - The Crowd
09 Little Jimmy The Giant - 1983 - The Crowd
10 Then Again - 1983 - The Crowd
11 Murphy Had a Birthday - 1983 - The Crowd
12 Thick and Thin - 1983 - The Crowd
13 Time Will Destroy You - 1983 - The Crowd
14 Angry Pillows - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
15 Lockets of the Empress - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
16 Quality of Armor - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
17 Tell Me - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
18 Walls and Windows - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
19 Echoland - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
20 Before My Eyes - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
21 Together/Apart - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
22 Amnesia - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal
23 'Til I Found You - 1984
24 Just One Drop - 1984 - Gilly's
25 Save My Life - 1984 - Gilly's
26 I'd Choose You - 1984 - Gilly's
27 A World Of My Own - 1984 - Gilly's
28 Try To Find You - 1984 - Gilly's
29 Something For Susan In The Shadows - 1984 - Live
30 Call Me - 1984 approx
31 Spinning Around - 1984
32 The House Always Looks So Nice - 1984 approx
33 Thee White Flower - 1985
34 Solid Gold Animal Collection - 1983
35 Ugly Day of Rain and Soccer - 1984


The Issue Presents Itself: 1985-1987

01 The Issue Presents Itself - 1987
02 Messenger - 1985
03 A Kind of Love - 1985
04 Rifle Games - 1985 - Rifle Games
05 Good to Look - 1985 - Rifle Games
06 That Ain't No Good - Live 1985
07 Run - 1986
08 Heartbeat - 1986 - Fig. 4
09 The Garden - 1986 - Fig. 4
10 Carousel of Pain - 1987 approx
11 Dancing With The Answers - 1986
12 Where I Come From - 1987
13 Daughter Of The Gold Rush - 1986/1987
14 It's Only Up To You - 1987
15 Industrial Morning - 1987
16 Shoddy Clothes - 1987
17 The Lodger Carried A Gun - 1987
18 When 2 Hours Seem Like 5 - 1987
19 Joyriding At The County Fair - 1986
20 Ten Trumpet Funeral - 1986 - Down In the Valley
21 Time Time Time - 1986 - Down In the Valley
22 Mother & Son - 1987
23 Perhaps We Were Swinging - 1987
24 When's The Last Time - 1987
25 Long Way To Run - 1987
26 Little Head - 1987
27 Lonely Town - 1987
28 Telephone Town - 1987
29 I'm Cold - 1987
30 Troopers in the Town - 1986
31 Soul Barn - 1987
32 Once In A While - 1986
33 Bellboy Stomp - 1986


Still Worth Nothing: 1988-1989

01 Taco, Buffalo, Birddog and Jesus - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
02 Blue strawberry switchblade - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
03 Rocket Head - 1988
04 Turbo Boy - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
05 Soul Flyers - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
06 Harboring Exiles - 1989
07 Still Worth Nothing - 1989
08 Cox Municipal Airport Song - 1988
09 United - 1988
10 Time Machines - 1988
11 We've Got Airplanes - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
12 7 Strokes To Heaven's Edge - 1989
13 Tear it Out - 1988
14 Banners - 1988 approx
15 Meddle - 1988
16 Oh, Blinky - 1989
17 In Walked The Moon - 1988
18 Uncle Dave - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
19 Settlement Down - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
20 Serpentine Rain Dodger - 1988
21 Ode to J.D. - 1988?
22 Dust Devil - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
23 Coastal Town - 1989
24 Drugs And Eggs - 1989
25 I Can See It In Your Eyes - 1989
26 I Can't Help But Noticing - 1989
27 Waiting For Your Touch - 1989
28 Paper Girl - 1989 - Learning to Hunt
29 Home - 1989
30 Never - 1989
31 Excellent Things - 1988
32 Beach Towers - 1988


Clean It Up: 1990-1992

01 Smothered in Hugs (Cheap Trick Version) - 1990
02 Deathtrot and Warlock - Some Drilling Implied - 1992
03 Squirmish Frontal Room - 1991
04 Back To Saturn X - 1990
05 Flesh Ears from June - 1992
06 My Big Day - 1990
07 Dusty Bushworms - 1991 (restored version)
08 Our Value Of Luxury - 1991
09 Spring Tigers - 1991
10 Rough Tracks - 1991 approx
11 Fantasy Creeps - 1991
12 Heavy Crown - 1991
13 Sopor Joe - 1991
14 Perch Warble - 1991
15 Tractor Rape Chain (Clean It Up) - 1991
16 Mallard Smoke - 1991
17 Have It Again - 1991
18 Scissors And The Clay Ox (In) - 1990
19 Tricyclic Looper - 1991
20 Becoming Unglued (No Trash Allowed) - 1992
21 New World Rising (Up We Go) - 1992
22 How Can You - 1991 approx
23 Smothered in Hugs (demo) - 1991 approx
24 My Feet's Trustworthy Existence - 1992
25 Separation of Church & State - 1992
26 Tobacco's Last Stand - 1992
27 Crutch Came Slinking - 1991
28 Special Astrology for the Warlock Tour - 1991


What Are We Coming Up To?: 1993-1995

01 Supermarket The Moon - 1993
02 2nd Moves To Twin - 1993
03 Postal Blowfish - 1993
04 Indian Was An Angel - 1993
05 Sea of Clover - 1993
06 Crunch Pillow - 1993
07 Bite - 1993
08 Why Did You Land - 1993
09 Scissors - 1993
10 Revolution Boy - 1993
11 Please Freeze Me - 1993
12 The Terrible Two - 1993
13 Cruise - 1993
14 What Are We Coming Up To - 1993
15 Ding Dong Daddy (Is Back from the Bank) - 1993
16 Crocker's Favorite Song - 1993
17 When Last I Heard You Knocking (Firehouse Mtn. pt. 2) - 1993 approx
18 Lariat Man - 1994
19 Rubber Man - 1993? Long Version
20 My Valuable Hunting Knife - 1994
21 Naavy - 1994
22 Sheetkickers - 1995 - demo from The Power of Suck
23 Color Of My Blade - 1995 - Albini Mix
24 He's The Uncle - 1995 - Albini Mix
25 Superwhore - 1995 - Albini Mix
26 Official Ironmen Rally Song - 1995 - demo from The Power of Suck
27 Love Hurts - 1994


Supplement: The Power of Suck Era 1995

01 Pantherz
02 Big Boring Wedding
03 In Previous Trials
04 Trader Vic
05 Bunco Men
06 June Salutes You!
07 Bug House
08 Drag Days
09 Sheetkickers
10 Debbie X (I Am Decided)
11 Beneath A Festering Moon
12 Delayed Reaction Brats
13 He's The Uncle
14 The Key Losers
15 Speak Like Men
16 Sweeping Bones
17 Why Did You Land?
18 Deaf Ears
19 Superwhore
20 Sacred Space
21 Redmen and Their Wives
22 Color of My Blade
23 Are You Faster?
24 Cocksoldiers and Their Postwar Stubble
25 Amazed
26 Pluto the Skate
27 Heavy Metal Country


Do The Collapse: 1996-1998

01 Your Charming Proposal - 1996
02 Black Ghost Pie - 1996
03 Ha Ha Man - 1996
04 Sensational Gravity Boy - 1996
05 Sucker of Pistol City - 1996
06 Scorpion Lounge Shutdown - 1997 demo
07 The Singing Razorblade - 1997 demo
08 Mannequin's Complaint - 1997 demo
09 My Impression Now - 1997 Radio
10 James Riot - 1998 Demo
11 Sing It Out - 1998 Demo
12 Child (Aerial) - 1998 Demo
13 Bloodbeast - 1998 Demo
14 Shrine to the Dynamic Years - 1998 Demo
15 Exploding Anthills - 1998 Demo
16 Unshaven Bird - 1998 Demo
17 The Kissing Life - 1998 Demo
18 Carnival At the Morning Star School - 1998 Demo
19 The Fool Ticket - 1998 Demo
20 Trashed Aircraft - 1998 Demo
21 Powerblessings - 1998 Demo
22 Things I Will Keep - 1998 Demo
23 2nd Step Next Language - 1998 Demo
24 Sinister Infrared Halo - 1998 Demo
25 Picture Me Big Time - 1998 Demo
26 Indian Power Guru Tower - 1998 Demo
27 Mr. Media - 1998 Demo
28 Tropical Robots - 1998 Live NYC
29 Just Say The Word - 1998 Live NYC
30 Perfect This Time - 1998 Live NYC
31 Catfood on the Earwhig - 1998 Live NYC
32 Avalanche Aminos - 1998 Live NYC
33 Man Called Aerodynamics - 1998 Concert for Todd
34 Dorothy's A Planet - 1998 Concert for Todd
35 Underwater Moonlight - 1998
36 Wondering Boy Poet - 1996 BBC



damn, just got to the original 80s version of Heavy Like the World (I'd Choose You)

great in the 80s, great in 2019
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Postby bluelips » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:20 am

https://www.stereogum.com/2143255/guided-by-voices-isolation-drills-turns-20/reviews/the-anniversary/

pretty good retrospective on isolation drills. i like it better than do the collapse but it’s pretty low on my favs personally
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Postby oh! it's max! » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:38 am

bluelips you should listen to The Bears For Lunch, it’s my favorite post-reunion LP
seriously.
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Postby pink snake » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:43 am

I remember getting Isolation Drills for free from Magnet Magazine. It got me re-interested in GBV and I love it.
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Postby bluelips » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:08 am

oh! it's max! wrote:bluelips you should listen to The Bears For Lunch, it’s my favorite post-reunion LP


i'll check it!

not sure what it is about isolation drills that puts me off, the production isn't really a problem for me and there's some good songs it just doesn't have the mystique(i guess?) of the early-mid 90s stuff
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Postby Autarch » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:10 am

just listened to clown prince of the menthol trailer for the first time, and this track was great:

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Postby pink snake » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:15 am

You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
You're so cherry
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Postby bluelips » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:15 am

that one has matter eater lad too right? love that song
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Postby speakers » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:18 am

i think static airplane jive is the best of that group of EPs
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Postby bluelips » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:24 am

i have these all in a playlist and it's great:

fast japanese spin cycle
static airplane jive
get out of my stations
i am a scientist ep
the grand hour
clown prince of the menthol trailer
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