speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:
it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)
it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead
I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.
speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:
it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)
it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead
I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.
Cool, just listened to Under the Bushes and Mag. I really like the historical context, in fact I wish he'd spend more time on that.
Definitely some strange takes--he doesn't seem to keen on the weird/snippety GBV songs. Also, did he have to edit in his pronunciation of Cobra Verde in the Mag ep? (not that he pronounced it correctly), it had that Simpsons-y post production choppy ADL thing going on each time it came up.
And while I know it would be insane to tackle every release, it does seem skipping NiMA, Tonics and Twisted Chasers, and Waved Out results in pretty big pieces of the story not being told. Still! good stuff.
I don't have anything that valuable, but I briefly bought all the new Fading Captain stuff on vinyl when it started, and it's all worth a decent amount now I think. I don't think I'll part with it though--Circus Devils Ringworm Interiors makes so much more sense as a weird record you occasionally stumble upon in a stack rather than one of 200 GBV choices on Spotify.
And while we're at it--I gotta say, I noticed the new Not in My Airforce reissue separates those final acoustic snippets from the actual LP and into an untitled 7" (kind of like with Under the Bushes). It may have been Bob's wish, but I can't imagine that album without that strange little hangover of an ending.
speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:
it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)
it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead
I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.
Cool, just listened to Under the Bushes and Mag. I really like the historical context, in fact I wish he'd spend more time on that.
Definitely some strange takes--he doesn't seem to keen on the weird/snippety GBV songs. Also, did he have to edit in his pronunciation of Cobra Verde in the Mag ep? (not that he pronounced it correctly), it had that Simpsons-y post production choppy ADL thing going on each time it came up.
And while I know it would be insane to tackle every release, it does seem skipping NiMA, Tonics and Twisted Chasers, and Waved Out results in pretty big pieces of the story not being told. Still! good stuff.
Yeah, I wish he went over some of the weird LPs like Tonic and King Shit, as well as the solo stuff, but I suppose he still can. He did an episode on some of the 90's EPs and a Tobin solo record, so I can see it happening.
I just randomly find myself shouting WHAT? at the podcast, which is to be expected from opinions on such a weird band. I'm pretty sure he mentions he doesn't care for It's Like Soul Man, literally one of my favorite GBV tracks and glides over Weed King, a top 5 track for me. Also makes a weird comment about Bob singing about weed. Still a lot of fun and I'm glad it exists.
I also recently finally heard the Bee Thousand Director's Cut and holy crap, that record would have been a flop if it wasn't edited down. The flow on the released version is masterful and it's honestly nuts how important pacing and song selection really plays into the greatness of the record.
There were a few cuts on it that were really cool though. I actually dig these versions more than their released versions (well, at least Hunting Knife, which I always wanted to have traditional drums).
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speakers wrote:if you're really curious about UTBUTS (it's an interesting story, with kim deal, steve albini, the power of suck, etc) and the untitled ep, check this out:
it's a nice overview from a bob obsessive (who doesn't pull punches when he doesn't like something)
it's actually a podcast, so you can check it out that way instead
I listened to the Mag Earwig episode yesterday and he referred to Wowee Zowee as a disappointment. He has some weird ass opinions, especially on certain songs/albums (doesn't like Alien Lanes??), but I'm really digging it.
I dont think he says he doesnt like Alien Lanes, just that he thinks it’s a step down from Bee Thousand and is an album with some stone cold classics and a lot of filler. I agree that Bee Thousand basically doesnt have a skippable track, while Alien Lanes might fly higher at moments but as some big dips.
Though he calls out Big Chief Chinese Restaurant and King of Caroline as filler. That’s definitely nonsense
Whoa it's disorienting to hear the fully rocked out Hunting Knife after all these years with the original doinky drum sounds, it does fully rock though
Was just poking around their discogs and they have elliott smith credited as playing organ on a few songs on isolation drills. Anyone know if that’s true?
bluelips wrote:he does a ranking of all the albums and put alien lanes ridiculously low. like behind a bunch of 2010s stuff wtf
There is a faction out there that still hangs on every GBV utterance and let me tell you, they are super weird about rating the last 20 years of albums.
I have seen some fucked up arbitrary shit called the best record of their career, it's mental.
Everybody's got a ticket to ride 'cept for me and my lightning.
They’ve definitely put out real good stuff post-2000. I’m only ever able to catch an album or song here and there but some immediately entered my personal canon (Space Gun, Keep it in Motion, for example). But if a GBV completist tells me something like Zeppelin Over China is legit, I’ll give it a spin. It’d be hard for me to get passed the special place Alien Lanes holds for me (though again I personally put it squarely behind Bee Thousand), but Bob and co are still putting out absolute bangers left and right. It’s possible he superseded is early work by sheer force of will. Probably not but i love entertaining the idea.
Don't get me wrong, I give every record a chance. Very little sticks. The only song on Mirrored Aztec I'm ever likely to return to is Bunco Men, which was already 10 years old when it came out the first time 20 years ago. I'd love to feel differently more often. I almost never do.
For good vibes sake, maybe I'll post songs I like that are less than 15 years old. Trust Them Now is pretty solid.
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Everybody's got a ticket to ride 'cept for me and my lightning.
Personal compilation from official & unofficial GbV non-LP sources, carefully remastered and researched to place into a more coherent chronological framework.
This is the 2020 Revision: "The Quarantined Suitcase"
-anazgnos 4/3/2020
Somewhere Sometime: 1978-1984
01 Piece - 1980 02 Somewhere Sometime - 1978 03 Less Active Railroad - 1980 04 Trying to Make it Work Again - 1981 05 I'm Just Doing My Job - 1982 06 Disappearing Act - 1983 - The Crowd 07 Eloise - 1983 - The Crowd 08 Linda's Lottery - 1983 - The Crowd 09 Little Jimmy The Giant - 1983 - The Crowd 10 Then Again - 1983 - The Crowd 11 Murphy Had a Birthday - 1983 - The Crowd 12 Thick and Thin - 1983 - The Crowd 13 Time Will Destroy You - 1983 - The Crowd 14 Angry Pillows - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 15 Lockets of the Empress - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 16 Quality of Armor - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 17 Tell Me - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 18 Walls and Windows - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 19 Echoland - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 20 Before My Eyes - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 21 Together/Apart - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 22 Amnesia - 1984 - Pissing in the Canal 23 'Til I Found You - 1984 24 Just One Drop - 1984 - Gilly's 25 Save My Life - 1984 - Gilly's 26 I'd Choose You - 1984 - Gilly's 27 A World Of My Own - 1984 - Gilly's 28 Try To Find You - 1984 - Gilly's 29 Something For Susan In The Shadows - 1984 - Live 30 Call Me - 1984 approx 31 Spinning Around - 1984 32 The House Always Looks So Nice - 1984 approx 33 Thee White Flower - 1985 34 Solid Gold Animal Collection - 1983 35 Ugly Day of Rain and Soccer - 1984
The Issue Presents Itself: 1985-1987
01 The Issue Presents Itself - 1987 02 Messenger - 1985 03 A Kind of Love - 1985 04 Rifle Games - 1985 - Rifle Games 05 Good to Look - 1985 - Rifle Games 06 That Ain't No Good - Live 1985 07 Run - 1986 08 Heartbeat - 1986 - Fig. 4 09 The Garden - 1986 - Fig. 4 10 Carousel of Pain - 1987 approx 11 Dancing With The Answers - 1986 12 Where I Come From - 1987 13 Daughter Of The Gold Rush - 1986/1987 14 It's Only Up To You - 1987 15 Industrial Morning - 1987 16 Shoddy Clothes - 1987 17 The Lodger Carried A Gun - 1987 18 When 2 Hours Seem Like 5 - 1987 19 Joyriding At The County Fair - 1986 20 Ten Trumpet Funeral - 1986 - Down In the Valley 21 Time Time Time - 1986 - Down In the Valley 22 Mother & Son - 1987 23 Perhaps We Were Swinging - 1987 24 When's The Last Time - 1987 25 Long Way To Run - 1987 26 Little Head - 1987 27 Lonely Town - 1987 28 Telephone Town - 1987 29 I'm Cold - 1987 30 Troopers in the Town - 1986 31 Soul Barn - 1987 32 Once In A While - 1986 33 Bellboy Stomp - 1986
Still Worth Nothing: 1988-1989
01 Taco, Buffalo, Birddog and Jesus - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 02 Blue strawberry switchblade - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 03 Rocket Head - 1988 04 Turbo Boy - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 05 Soul Flyers - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 06 Harboring Exiles - 1989 07 Still Worth Nothing - 1989 08 Cox Municipal Airport Song - 1988 09 United - 1988 10 Time Machines - 1988 11 We've Got Airplanes - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 12 7 Strokes To Heaven's Edge - 1989 13 Tear it Out - 1988 14 Banners - 1988 approx 15 Meddle - 1988 16 Oh, Blinky - 1989 17 In Walked The Moon - 1988 18 Uncle Dave - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 19 Settlement Down - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 20 Serpentine Rain Dodger - 1988 21 Ode to J.D. - 1988? 22 Dust Devil - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 23 Coastal Town - 1989 24 Drugs And Eggs - 1989 25 I Can See It In Your Eyes - 1989 26 I Can't Help But Noticing - 1989 27 Waiting For Your Touch - 1989 28 Paper Girl - 1989 - Learning to Hunt 29 Home - 1989 30 Never - 1989 31 Excellent Things - 1988 32 Beach Towers - 1988
Clean It Up: 1990-1992
01 Smothered in Hugs (Cheap Trick Version) - 1990 02 Deathtrot and Warlock - Some Drilling Implied - 1992 03 Squirmish Frontal Room - 1991 04 Back To Saturn X - 1990 05 Flesh Ears from June - 1992 06 My Big Day - 1990 07 Dusty Bushworms - 1991 (restored version) 08 Our Value Of Luxury - 1991 09 Spring Tigers - 1991 10 Rough Tracks - 1991 approx 11 Fantasy Creeps - 1991 12 Heavy Crown - 1991 13 Sopor Joe - 1991 14 Perch Warble - 1991 15 Tractor Rape Chain (Clean It Up) - 1991 16 Mallard Smoke - 1991 17 Have It Again - 1991 18 Scissors And The Clay Ox (In) - 1990 19 Tricyclic Looper - 1991 20 Becoming Unglued (No Trash Allowed) - 1992 21 New World Rising (Up We Go) - 1992 22 How Can You - 1991 approx 23 Smothered in Hugs (demo) - 1991 approx 24 My Feet's Trustworthy Existence - 1992 25 Separation of Church & State - 1992 26 Tobacco's Last Stand - 1992 27 Crutch Came Slinking - 1991 28 Special Astrology for the Warlock Tour - 1991
What Are We Coming Up To?: 1993-1995
01 Supermarket The Moon - 1993 02 2nd Moves To Twin - 1993 03 Postal Blowfish - 1993 04 Indian Was An Angel - 1993 05 Sea of Clover - 1993 06 Crunch Pillow - 1993 07 Bite - 1993 08 Why Did You Land - 1993 09 Scissors - 1993 10 Revolution Boy - 1993 11 Please Freeze Me - 1993 12 The Terrible Two - 1993 13 Cruise - 1993 14 What Are We Coming Up To - 1993 15 Ding Dong Daddy (Is Back from the Bank) - 1993 16 Crocker's Favorite Song - 1993 17 When Last I Heard You Knocking (Firehouse Mtn. pt. 2) - 1993 approx 18 Lariat Man - 1994 19 Rubber Man - 1993? Long Version 20 My Valuable Hunting Knife - 1994 21 Naavy - 1994 22 Sheetkickers - 1995 - demo from The Power of Suck 23 Color Of My Blade - 1995 - Albini Mix 24 He's The Uncle - 1995 - Albini Mix 25 Superwhore - 1995 - Albini Mix 26 Official Ironmen Rally Song - 1995 - demo from The Power of Suck 27 Love Hurts - 1994
Supplement: The Power of Suck Era 1995
01 Pantherz 02 Big Boring Wedding 03 In Previous Trials 04 Trader Vic 05 Bunco Men 06 June Salutes You! 07 Bug House 08 Drag Days 09 Sheetkickers 10 Debbie X (I Am Decided) 11 Beneath A Festering Moon 12 Delayed Reaction Brats 13 He's The Uncle 14 The Key Losers 15 Speak Like Men 16 Sweeping Bones 17 Why Did You Land? 18 Deaf Ears 19 Superwhore 20 Sacred Space 21 Redmen and Their Wives 22 Color of My Blade 23 Are You Faster? 24 Cocksoldiers and Their Postwar Stubble 25 Amazed 26 Pluto the Skate 27 Heavy Metal Country
Do The Collapse: 1996-1998
01 Your Charming Proposal - 1996 02 Black Ghost Pie - 1996 03 Ha Ha Man - 1996 04 Sensational Gravity Boy - 1996 05 Sucker of Pistol City - 1996 06 Scorpion Lounge Shutdown - 1997 demo 07 The Singing Razorblade - 1997 demo 08 Mannequin's Complaint - 1997 demo 09 My Impression Now - 1997 Radio 10 James Riot - 1998 Demo 11 Sing It Out - 1998 Demo 12 Child (Aerial) - 1998 Demo 13 Bloodbeast - 1998 Demo 14 Shrine to the Dynamic Years - 1998 Demo 15 Exploding Anthills - 1998 Demo 16 Unshaven Bird - 1998 Demo 17 The Kissing Life - 1998 Demo 18 Carnival At the Morning Star School - 1998 Demo 19 The Fool Ticket - 1998 Demo 20 Trashed Aircraft - 1998 Demo 21 Powerblessings - 1998 Demo 22 Things I Will Keep - 1998 Demo 23 2nd Step Next Language - 1998 Demo 24 Sinister Infrared Halo - 1998 Demo 25 Picture Me Big Time - 1998 Demo 26 Indian Power Guru Tower - 1998 Demo 27 Mr. Media - 1998 Demo 28 Tropical Robots - 1998 Live NYC 29 Just Say The Word - 1998 Live NYC 30 Perfect This Time - 1998 Live NYC 31 Catfood on the Earwhig - 1998 Live NYC 32 Avalanche Aminos - 1998 Live NYC 33 Man Called Aerodynamics - 1998 Concert for Todd 34 Dorothy's A Planet - 1998 Concert for Todd 35 Underwater Moonlight - 1998 36 Wondering Boy Poet - 1996 BBC
damn, just got to the original 80s version of Heavy Like the World (I'd Choose You)
oh! it's max! wrote:bluelips you should listen to The Bears For Lunch, it’s my favorite post-reunion LP
i'll check it!
not sure what it is about isolation drills that puts me off, the production isn't really a problem for me and there's some good songs it just doesn't have the mystique(i guess?) of the early-mid 90s stuff