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Postby No Good Advice » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:26 am

furrowed brow wrote:Are there a lot of women who write huge books? Other than Stein obviously.

i remember dfw on charlie rose (quite a pair, amirite?) doing this big feminist strawman about how he writes such long books cuz he's phalliocentric or something. idk just always wondered from then on how many women write huge novels like that and idk enough to answer the question lol


You should read some George Eliot
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Postby furrowed brow » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:32 am

you are not wrong. my sis's copy of middlemarch is around here somewhere. i find reading fiction in general hard right now (by which i mean for the last 3 years) tho.

thanks petty for the Butler. have heard of her, but didn't know her books are really long.
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Postby Kenny » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:43 am

I looked this up and it's not really true that her books are huge, so now I'm wondering who I've mixed up
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Postby Sobieski » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:07 am

furrowed brow wrote:Are there a lot of women who write huge books? Other than Stein obviously.

i remember dfw on charlie rose (quite a pair, amirite?) doing this big feminist strawman about how he writes such long books cuz he's phalliocentric or something. idk just always wondered from then on how many women write huge novels like that and idk enough to answer the question lol


You could read Miss MacIntosh, My Darling, I've never read it but I want to

Miss MacIntosh, My Darling is a novel by Marguerite Young. She has described it as "an exploration of the illusions, hallucinations, errors of judgment in individual lives, the central scene of the novel being an opium addict's paradise."[1]

The novel is one of the longest ever written.
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Postby furrowed brow » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:11 am

ah, fantastic answer sobieski. thx

Also, was sort of thinking, why should the Neapolitan trilogy not be considered, in some sense, a single work?
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Postby Vegetable » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:12 am

Tale of Genji, more like Tale of My Giant Schlong if we’re being honest.
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Postby shizaam » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:16 am

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i really want to read these
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Postby Kenny » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:25 am

The first one is classic, the next three are really good, the last one is poor
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Postby furrowed brow » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:30 am

Vegetable wrote:Tale of Genji, more like Tale of My Giant Schlong if we’re being honest.


lol, thx for this.
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Postby cooly » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:00 am

furrowed brow, have you read axel honneth? he’s one of the contemporary Frankfurt school guys and is really good

tale of genji owns btw
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Postby furrowed brow » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:08 am

oh right. am familiar, though i haven't read him no. honestly don't know if I'd call him continental tho. I'm obv using an idiosyncratic definition, but imo Frankfurt School since Habermas really cut in a Rawlsian direction feels very analytic to me. But Idk, i guess Honneth stuff is explicitly using Hegel to look at "politics of recognition" so maybe not. lol I'm already disagreeing with this post i'm making right now, welp.

what have you read of his?
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Postby chowder julius » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:55 am

the talented mr ripley was a surprise favorite of 2018 for me. really beautiful stuff. idk if it's considered genre fiction but it's definitely literary
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Postby HotFingersClub » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:35 pm

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Alice Jolly – Mary Ann Sate, Imbecile
This is unbelievably good. Absolutely criminal that it got so little attention upon release – I think there's a good chance it'll be a future classic if people would actually read it. If you like Riddley Walker or The Wake, or you want to read more exceptional writing by women, you owe it to yourself to check this out. It's a bit of a tome but takes about half as long to read as a standard 600 pager, which is always welcome.

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Postby warmhouse » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:12 pm

furrowed brow wrote:Are there a lot of women who write huge books? Other than Stein obviously.

i remember dfw on charlie rose (quite a pair, amirite?) doing this big feminist strawman about how he writes such long books cuz he's phalliocentric or something. idk just always wondered from then on how many women write huge novels like that and idk enough to answer the question lol

white women be writing big novels cause they love putting them in their purses n shit
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Postby hadlex » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:28 pm

Finished "Condominium." It was great and am looking to reading more John D. MacDonald. Among the pulpy fun, he has these lovely, poignant, almost lyrical passages that explore thoughts on aging or why people get caught up in conspiracy theories or the nature of greed and they're really astonishing.

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this was super cool. French series that inspired GRRM to write game of thrones.

now (finally) onto (for real this time)

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Postby cooly » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:01 am

furrowed brow wrote:oh right. am familiar, though i haven't read him no. honestly don't know if I'd call him continental tho. I'm obv using an idiosyncratic definition, but imo Frankfurt School since Habermas really cut in a Rawlsian direction feels very analytic to me. But Idk, i guess Honneth stuff is explicitly using Hegel to look at "politics of recognition" so maybe not. lol I'm already disagreeing with this post i'm making right now, welp.

what have you read of his?

i've only read bits of the struggle for recognition and freedom's right (he was my host when i was a visiting scholar somewhere he taught, so i felt obligated to go to his course and read his stuff, but i was really pleasantly surprised) and i found them very interesting. you're right that he's closer to habermas than e.g. adorno in his politics though. just thought if you were really feeling geuss he might be a good place to go next. i've been thinking about picking up his more recent "the idea of socialism" but it's hard when i have two unfinished books of his on the shelf. just been too busy with dissertation stuff to really give it a go.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:26 am

Kenny wrote:The Prennial Philosophy was so good, I'm even gonna buy it in physical copy to read through again, very inspiring and like solidification of things I felt before. It's got some wierd bits about minor pyschic abilities being provable and also some post-Jungian personality type stuff that always makes my eyes roll but other than that it was so spot on for me.

Gonna keep religion rolling and read this next:
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Finished this. It was more of a book-length obituary than a biography in some ways but I like obituaries so it was a fun read.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:12 am

Now starting this book which I've been meaning to read for like 30 books in a row in the meantime:
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Someone's made a list of most of the songs he mentions in the book if you want a list:
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Postby j-ol » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Kenny wrote:
Someone's made a list of most of the songs he mentions in the book if you want a list:
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awesome, thx for the playlist. book is excellent, enjoy! i'd also rec life and death on the NY dancefloor big time.
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Postby furrowed brow » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:50 pm

how is Grand Hotel Abyss?
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Postby reversemigraine » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:32 am

furrowed brow wrote:how is Grand Hotel Abyss?


I just started it but it's exactly what I was wanting when I picked it up. Strikes the right balance between biography and discussions of theory, and serves as a good intro to the latter, at least for a reader like me who has a rudimentary understanding (at best) of Western Marxism and hasn't spent time with the primary texts.
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I bought this because of "Mr. Lupescu," an old-fashioned, well-crafted story with a double twist ending (was that old-fashioned in 1945?) with hints towards stuff you couldn't print back then. It turns out none of the others are that good, most aren't horror stories as I expected, and 75 years later they all creak terribly. I'll forget them if I don't write about them so this is for myself:

"The Compleat Werewolf" - When I was a kid I took it for granted that comics reprints from the '40s and '50s were all about saboteurs and spies, even Disney comics. Of course it saturated sci-fi etc. too. This title story is a farcical caper, hinging on the gimmick that Professor Wolfe Wolf (really) can say a magic word to turn into a wolf but needs someone else to say it in order to change back. There's tons of action and some of it makes no sense. Why would the famous actress be one of the fascist spies? I could see this as a Mickey Mouse story, except with people getting shot in the face. It's also got the bit where the hero realizes at the end that his trusty secretary was the gal for him all along. Thoroughly nutty but probably the best story here aside from "Mr. Lupescu."

"The Pink Caterpillar" - Fergus O'Breen ain't exactly a legend of crime fiction but starred in 3 of Boucher's novels and also appeared in the previous story. Here, he's swapping odd tales with shipmates during wartime. His narration of an old case hinges on the power of a shaman to go into the future (up to 100 years) and bring back anything you want, for a price. So if you wanted to own the shit out of your hated enemy, you could ask the shaman to bring you his skeleton. But then you'd have to hide and protect the skeleton, Or Else. One of the weaker stories here as its rules are pretty arbitrary.

"Q.U.R" - In a future where bidpedal androids perform most labor, Quinby proposes instead to design Usuform Robots specialized for their particular function. To illustrate this point, most of the story is given over to building a robot which can mix a Three Planets cocktail as well as a many-tentacled Martian bartender. So mostly a comedy again but very leaden. The narrator is never named and I thought there would be some allusion or reveal but there isn't.

Now we're on page 96, where the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company would like to remind you to Kent N Chill. At least they stopped makin' 'em with asbestos by this point.

"Robinc" - A direct sequel to "Q.U.R." in which 'Robots Incorporated' seeks to eliminate Q.U.R., their new competitor. Threats, sabotage, etc. until the heroes are captured by Robinc androids. They win over their captors by offering upgrades, and all the androids voluntarily swarm to Q.U.R. to be remade. All perfectly pat. Perhaps worth noting that the Planetary Head is a black dude, but his only characteristic seems to be his big white smile. The 2 stories are a real slog.

"Snulbug" - Bill Hitchens needs money so he summons a demon. His motives are pure (raising money for his medical research) so I don't know why he chose this route. Anyway, the summoned demon is tiny and sucks. He can, he says, at least time travel and bring back tomorrow's paper to today so that Hitchens can profit from it. This doesn't work, of course--Hitchens gets stuck in a time loop if he does anything that would affect the already-written future. He sells the future-paper to a greedy idiot he knows. Hitchens quickly cashes the check at Snulbug's urging, because here's the twist that makes zero sense to a modern audience: "any dope knows that a Tuesday paper comes out Monday afternoon." Because Snulbug sucks and couldn't go for enough into the future, it was the afternoon edition from the same day. Lol?

"They Bite" - This one is straight horror and pretty stock. Tallant has acquired an old property out west, with hints that he's spying on the nearby military base. Someone from his past hits town, knows what Tallant's up to, and plans to blackmail him. There are rumors in town that Tallant's property includes the old homestead of the Carkers, who may have also been The Bloody Benders (which I'd never heard of but they're referenced in Red Dead 2 and American Gods so I can believe people might have gotten this reference in 1942). Tallant plans to kill the guy and dump the body in the old Carker place. I'm sure it's totally abandoned. I'm sure his plan will work splendidly. The Carker creatures are kinda cool, like Gremlin mummies.

"Expedition" - Transcripts from a hostile Martian scouting mission to Earth. Quite tedious. They try to communicate with a cat, they transcribe the statements of the human they meet incorrectly, etc. They're large insectoid creatures so the man scares them off by showing them photos of insects being squashed by people, claiming he's an unusually tiny specimen but all the other humans are huge. Pretty weak stuff, except for repeated allusions to a Martian "art" which seems to involve vivisection but is left vague.

"We Print the Truth" - The editor of a small-town paper makes a wish (this part is boring and dumb and the story is so long that I don't want to explain more) that his paper will always... print the truth! All proceeds as you might expect: a typo results in a miracle, he tests the limits of this power, gets ambitious and writes that the war has ended. Of course he's then tasked with designing a post-war reality for everyone. This is waaay too long and even changes perspective to an FBI agent sent to investigate the town. It's hinted in the last scene that Winston Churchill also ended the war with a wish. It's about free will, dummy! At least it references "The Beckoning Fair One" (which I need to re-read).

"The Ghost of Me" - Another comedy, wherein the narrator's ghost has appeared in the "wrong time" but says he'll hang out and reveal who murdered him. When the murderer does appear, the ghost (who got drunk on ghost tequila while hanging out) is the one who gets shot--and by a silver bullet, because the murderer thought the narrator's medical work was evil magic. So "what happens after death to a man whose ghost has already been murdered?" Who knows, dogg.

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Postby incoherent grunting » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:23 am

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Damn what a book! I loved this. Almost gave me a panic attack though...


This was so good!
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Postby shacky » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:37 am

can anyone tell me are the hardcover 'library of america' editions generally pretty good quality, something you'd recommend? some of these voulmes including multiple novels seem like p good value?

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