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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:42 am

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"Basic Instinct" - Damn this is so good. Had no idea it is a honrieeee love letter to "Vertigo." Right up my alley!
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Postby pana » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:57 am

theater had no issue letting me in to watch their (almost empty) afternoon BI screening when i was 13. different times. the few reviews i had access to weren't great but it was the pre-internet era and i didn't really care much. ended up being a pretty good neo-noir hornthriller though

Hollywood tried to cash in next year with Sliver but that one sucked
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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:19 am

Love that

Wish I saw basic instinct at 13 it would have changed the course of my life I think
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Postby Melville » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:52 am

Repo wrote:"Enemy" (D. Villeneuve, 2013) -- what a waste of time

What did you dislike about it? I thought it was great. Villeneuve's smooth, icy atmosphere gave the doppelganger story a very distinct, memorable tone, different than the Kafkaesque or more traditionally surrealist one I'd expect. Great ending too. I watched it and Ayoade's adaptation of The Double around the same time. The polar opposite styles made for a nice pairing.
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Postby incoherent grunting » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:57 am

Melville wrote:
Repo wrote:"Enemy" (D. Villeneuve, 2013) -- what a waste of time

What did you dislike about it? I thought it was great. Villeneuve's smooth, icy atmosphere gave the doppelganger story a very distinct, memorable tone, different than the Kafkaesque or more traditionally surrealist one I'd expect. Great ending too. I watched it and Ayoade's adaptation of The Double around the same time. The polar opposite styles made for a nice pairing.


Yeah, I liked The Enemy, too... For an average movie it was better than a lot of things.
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Postby Repo » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:05 am

Melville wrote:
Repo wrote:"Enemy" (D. Villeneuve, 2013) -- what a waste of time

What did you dislike about it? I thought it was great. Villeneuve's smooth, icy atmosphere gave the doppelganger story a very distinct, memorable tone, different than the Kafkaesque or more traditionally surrealist one I'd expect. Great ending too. I watched it and Ayoade's adaptation of The Double around the same time. The polar opposite styles made for a nice pairing.


I'm glad you liked it! tone sincere
the whole thing felt mostly like a vehicle for gyllenhaal's acting
I really liked the atmosphere and pace (watched it only because it's villeneuve) but thought the script was a little clumsy / too ellusive, specially the prologue and the ending (although to be fair it was more the epilogue that I found irritating and way over the top)
didn't like the music score either
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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:14 am

Also love enemy
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Postby odilon redon » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:15 am

so i still goofily love lala land as the ultimately dumb but so cleverly designed bit of sweet oscar-bait hollywod handjob it so shamelessly and earnestly is
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Postby emotional fascism » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:16 am

enemy's ending terrified me so much I don't think I could watch it again. loved melanie laurent in it too.
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Postby odilon redon » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:17 am

yeah enemy good it’s at the very least as good as the last couple of ones he came out with that everyone seemingly loves
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Postby tricksforchips » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:47 pm

Enemy rules -- probably my favourite of his. Don't care for the stuff he's done recently other than Prisoners.
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Postby shacky » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:00 pm

enemy is villeneuve doing cronenberg, i luv it so much, his only film ive rewatched and one of the best horrors of the last ten years

i think more frightening than the final shot is the one after the scene with rossellini with the mother spider towering over the cityscape on some war of the worlds shitToggle Spoiler

id post the shot but im too scared to GIS it
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Postby iacus » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:22 pm

Honestly just think villenueve is a hack who gets big budgets
(there was a hyperbole)
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Postby shacky » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:28 pm

at least he's trying
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Postby Melville » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Repo wrote:I'm glad you liked it! tone sincere
the whole thing felt mostly like a vehicle for gyllenhaal's acting
I really liked the atmosphere and pace (watched it only because it's villeneuve) but thought the script was a little clumsy / too ellusive, specially the prologue and the ending (although to be fair it was more the epilogue that I found irritating and way over the top)
didn't like the music score either

Ah, I'm a fan of over-the-top, radical realizations of themes. And of elliptical storytelling.

Probably what I remember the most (besides the final moment) is just how permeated with vague, hidden menace the Toronto architecture felt. All cold, grey buildingscapes (with a giant gangly spider hovering over them to boot.)

I'm looking forward to Villeneuve's Dune. Though I suspect it will lose a ton of money. It'll be interesting to see if he goes back to smaller movies after that.
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Postby Melville » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:24 pm

shacky wrote:enemy is villeneuve doing cronenberg, i luv it so much, his only film ive rewatched and one of the best horrors of the last ten years

i think more frightening than the final shot is the one after the scene with rossellini with the mother spider towering over the cityscape on some war of the worlds shitToggle Spoiler

id post the shot but im too scared to GIS it

Yeah, I love that shot.
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Postby iacus » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:24 pm

shacky wrote:at least he's trying


That's true, can't really fault him for it
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Postby aububs » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:03 pm

enemy is probably my least favourite villeneuve. i don't dislike it and the charisma of it worked on me somewhat, but for me it feels like filler in his output. i'd like to have seen it in the theatre
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Postby incoherent grunting » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:10 pm

Wait, I got Enemy and Prisoners mixed up. I've never seen Enemy????!
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Postby Melville » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:30 pm

incoherent grunting wrote:Wait, I got Enemy and Prisoners mixed up. I've never seen Enemy????!

Your description of Enemy makes more sense now. Prisoners is definitely more of an average movie. I liked it well enough, but it was the only one of his movies that felt filler-y to me.
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Postby tricksforchips » Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:39 pm

Enemy
Prisoners
Maelstrom
Polytechnique
Sicario
Incendies




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Arrival
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Postby Melville » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:20 pm

Blade Runner
Enemy
Sicario
Arrival
Prisoners

I don't remember anything about Maelstrom except a talking fish. Haven't seen the others.
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Postby incoherent grunting » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:10 pm

Sicario was a very bad movie with very good cinematography
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Postby mellowgold » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:50 pm

Prisoners should be my favorite movie of all time but ugh.

Arrival rules so much. i think about "Abbot is death process" all the damn time. def my fav of his.

I liked Blade Runner a lot but i need to rewatch it again bc the entire time i was watching it in the theater i was trying to make sure i knew i understood what was going bc i thought i wasnt understanding it but i totally was understanding it.

Enemy is good!

and yeah Sicario is bad but looks pretty!!!

Excited for Dune tbh
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Postby chowder julius » Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:59 pm

internetfriend wrote:we watched age of innocence over the last couple nights. i absolutely loved the first half of it, but lost some infatuation in the constant grind of "i must see you immediately"/babble about obligation and possibility/storming out. i thought the social pressures and delicate tribal distinctions were handled with incredible grace and deftness basically up until the marriage, and then it turned into a churn of broad-strokes desire and propriety that lost exactly the stuff that had been so impressive to me in its first half. i felt like its cinematography fell off a bit, too—the first half had some all-timer stuff for me

also, i'm not the kind of person who ever cares about being able to Relate To characters, but this is the first movie i can remember where the main character was so despicable and in such a particular way that it actually affected my patience for the movie itself

holy smokes michelle pfeiffer is incredible though. i want to go on a big michelle pfeiffer movie tour. unbelievable
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Postby dcm » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:58 pm

I watched Last Days of Disco for the first time since high school a few days ago and have now watched it twice more.

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Postby furrowed brow » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:43 pm

Fat Girl (Catherine Breillat, 2001) - Hooboy. Gonna put up a trigger warning here for this post for sexual violence because that's what this film is most intimately about. So, I think the point of the ending of the film is to create symmetry between Anais' first sexual experience and Elena's. The inherent absurdity of Anais saying her encounter was not rape is supposed to make the viewer question whether or not the previous sex scene with Elena was rape. Clearly Anais is of the mindset where she accepts her rape as normal and consensual, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary, and I think that the starkness of her situation is supposed to illuminate the possibly more ambiguous situation of Elena's experience, leaving us wondering whether her own mentality is such that she'll also accept rape as simply consensual, normal sex.

In any case, this film is admirable for its honest portrayal of "Nice" rape (acquaintance rape, more or less) rather than "Naughty" rape (of which Anais' experience is a paradigm case). The gruelingly realistic pace at which the former rape plays out is particularly disturbing, but I think essential for showing important details of something that is so important, yet so rarely put on film.
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