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Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:33 pm
by guy forget
they definitely made it sound very stupid

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:48 pm
by guy forget
retiring the joker bit with the silly music at the end is just the kind of goofy humor i tune in for several hours every week

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:28 pm
by starttomelt
cant they do Fincher already?

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:41 pm
by light rail coyote
my dream blank check director is still carpenter.

in general i'd like to see them to a canonical horror director

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:34 pm
by scrambled
i don't deny he has a prolific career geared for good podcast episodes, but looking at his filmography, what's fincher's blank check ? i

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:35 pm
by Amblin
Seven

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:37 pm
by Amblin
Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:35 pm
by surly
zodiac is his blank check but also fincher has been talked to death don't do it two friends

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:36 am
by Ted Pikul
I'd like to hear them take on Alien 3 actually

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:06 am
by avenue
Still waiting on Demme!

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:30 am
by davideotape
pretty sure Finchers blank check is in music videos and commercials that got him... Alien 3? i think it would be interesting for the #context for a discussion around how absolutely bananas music videos were in that era, and how this one group of commercial directors (gondry/spike jonze, etc) were becoming rockstars due to this weird mix of indie filmmaking and music video pop culture.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:40 am
by lightfoot
light rail coyote wrote:my dream blank check director is still carpenter.

in general i'd like to see them to a canonical horror director


ya same

wes craven would rule imo

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:13 am
by Mesh
Amblin wrote:Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check


If it's a video, it's "Straight Up" or "Express Yourself" but it's not, it's Se7en, which collected $327 million on a $33 million budget.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:38 am
by surly
Mesh wrote:
Amblin wrote:Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check


If it's a video, it's "Straight Up" or "Express Yourself" but it's not, it's Se7en, which collected $327 million on a $33 million budget.

there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the blank check as a concept. seven, fight club and panic room all combine to GIVE fincher the blank check. the blank check movie is zodiac, a nearly 3-hour movie ostensibly about one of the world's most notorious serial killers but that is way more interested in a cartoonist's obsession than the actual crimes

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:52 am
by Mesh
surly wrote:
Mesh wrote:
Amblin wrote:Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check


If it's a video, it's "Straight Up" or "Express Yourself" but it's not, it's Se7en, which collected $327 million on a $33 million budget.

there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the blank check as a concept. seven, fight club and panic room all combine to GIVE fincher the blank check. the blank check movie is zodiac, a nearly 3-hour movie ostensibly about one of the world's most notorious serial killers but that is way more interested in a cartoonist's obsession than the actual crimes


The blank check vs. guarantor thing is tedious. And even if it wasn't, Fight Club wasn't much of a financial success, if at all. And even if those things weren't true, Zodiac's budget was dead average for 2007. And even if all that weren't true, the Hannibal Lecter and Saw franchises made financing any kind of movie you could plausibly market as being about serial killers a very safe bet circa 2005, 2006, or whenever Zodiac was greenlit.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:00 am
by davideotape
...its the name of the podcast.
but yeah its better to listen to, surrounded by bits.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am
by Ted Pikul
the blank check thing is better stated as "commercially successful directors with a distinct personal style"

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:07 am
by virtuous
It’s just a dumb framework to talk about movies and crack dumb jokes.

Anyone worked up over the “blank check” aspect needs to relax.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:08 am
by Amblin
surly wrote:
Mesh wrote:
Amblin wrote:Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check


If it's a video, it's "Straight Up" or "Express Yourself" but it's not, it's Se7en, which collected $327 million on a $33 million budget.

there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the blank check as a concept. seven, fight club and panic room all combine to GIVE fincher the blank check. the blank check movie is zodiac, a nearly 3-hour movie ostensibly about one of the world's most notorious serial killers but that is way more interested in a cartoonist's obsession than the actual crimes


except the concept about the podcast isn't individual movies, its filmographies.

griffin says filmographies every time he describes it.

so its about multiple films, not really a single one. i'd say that each filmography is usually driven by the massive success of one very successful movie, so we can describe the "blank check movie" as the one that drives the rest of the filmography.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:11 am
by Amblin
really the theme of the series is "mainstream, modern directors who have directed a least a half dozen movies with a range of success" at this point

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:16 am
by Rainbow Battle Kid
yeah, though i'd say originally the focus was more on like, the specifics of what these people do when they are given total creative control, and how interesting the results are. star wars obv, and shyamalan and iirc wachowskis they kinda went into this stuff more

but yeah i'm also not a stickler i just wanna hang with My Boys

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:23 am
by whatabout tim
virtuous wrote:It’s just a dumb framework to talk about movies and crack dumb jokes.

Anyone worked up over the “blank check” aspect needs to relax.


It honestly reads way too much like the cringey reddit stuff.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:42 am
by guy forget
It’s Serial but for movies guys, they say so in the first episode

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:47 am
by surly
Amblin wrote:
surly wrote:
Mesh wrote:
Amblin wrote:Maybe the Janie’s Got A Gun video is his blank check


If it's a video, it's "Straight Up" or "Express Yourself" but it's not, it's Se7en, which collected $327 million on a $33 million budget.

there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the blank check as a concept. seven, fight club and panic room all combine to GIVE fincher the blank check. the blank check movie is zodiac, a nearly 3-hour movie ostensibly about one of the world's most notorious serial killers but that is way more interested in a cartoonist's obsession than the actual crimes


except the concept about the podcast isn't individual movies, its filmographies.

griffin says filmographies every time he describes it.

so its about multiple films, not really a single one. i'd say that each filmography is usually driven by the massive success of one very successful movie, so we can describe the "blank check movie" as the one that drives the rest of the filmography.

the blank check movies are the passion projects, not the massive success that allows for the passion projects!

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:52 am
by davideotape
any crazy passion projects!!

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:36 pm
by deadbass
It's a podcast where Griffin Newman and David Sims talk to each other and I get to listen to it.

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:44 pm
by Feech La Manna
yeah I honestly don't understand why people get anal-retentive about the concept at this point

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:44 pm
by Feech La Manna
actually, this show started as a way to talk about Star Wars merch and fan fic and do bits with a fake George Lucas

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:46 pm
by Ted Pikul
also because griffin tweeted at david about watto

Re: VERY HIP OPINIONS: #thetwofriends #hellofennel

PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:51 pm
by scrambled
i was just curious!!!!!