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Postby Buzz Fledderjohn » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:09 pm

saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


i'm sure that plays a part, but also like it's pretty much his last resort given the blatant level of corruption, crime, wrongdoing, lies, etc. there is no real coherent excuse for any of it, so you kind of have to go with the simple and all-encompassing "fake news! not true! lying media!" which all of his supporters get and agree with by now.
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Postby dragon jeans » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:13 pm

what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:15 pm

where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.
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Postby viachicago » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:20 pm

dragon jeans wrote:what up bootlickers is 100% my new email salutation


and "MARX" is my new signoff
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Postby delgriffith » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:24 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

Yeah he's winning. And the laughs we all had after the Lester Holt interview seem like 5 years ago.
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Postby The Emperor's Son » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:25 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church
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Postby badhat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:26 pm

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Postby Ted Pikul » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:27 pm

The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack
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Postby easy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:28 pm

we could always try making the drumpf thing stick
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Postby darger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:32 pm

or a bit more emolument talk.
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Postby tgk » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm

Eh they got all branches of govt locked up after the 16 election even the dumbest Republican on earth would be enjoying monumental support. Let's see how popular he is if we take the house and Senate back and can't get anything done
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:37 pm

Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.
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Postby tgk » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm

Man i am going to legitimately celebrate tonight if cohen gets arrested
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm

I trace it to infowars
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Postby hbb » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:42 pm

Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?


Yeah, Trump reversed it instantly by using it all the time, it’s so frustrating
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Postby Hal Jordan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm

saranclaps wrote:Someone pointed out to me that Trump's attacks on the news media are the accumulation of 35 years of grievances of how he was treated in print or TV or whatever, like those tweets stem from him being mad at people poking fun at his hair in the 90s.


eh, maybe, but this reason from the man himself seems more likely:

Lesley Stahl: Trump admitted mission to "discredit" press
CBS "60 Minutes" correspondent Lesley Stahl has revealed a candid remark made to her by then-presidential candidate Donald Trump in 2016. Stahl told a group of fellow journalists at the Deadline Club Awards Dinner in New York City earlier this week that Mr. Trump had admitted his consistent attacks on the media were meant to "discredit" journalists so that negative stories about him would not be believed.
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Postby Fr. Blanc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:43 pm

Ferrous Bueller wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.


weren't dems the ones who coined it in the first place?



yea the anger i feel towards joke "fake news" or joke red hats is pretty similar to the real thing
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Postby hbb » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:44 pm

If you think “instantly” and “all the time” make that a nonsequitur, I guess you’re not familiar with a little concept called the ETERNAL NOW
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Postby Hal Jordan » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm

palmer eldritch wrote:
Ted Pikul wrote:The scary thing about "fake news" is how effective it's been as an attack


a big pet peeve I have these days is when people adopt this as a joke phrase or try to turn it around on Republicans.

especially when it's not even used the same way. dem's might use it sarcastically (or intentionally) for news that is in fact not true, while a lot of times republicans use it to dismiss news they dislike.

if the latter uses it that way, they prob think the former is using it that way too, and not actually pointing out it is in fact not accurate.
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Postby mcwop23 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:46 pm

The Emperor's Son wrote:
palmer eldritch wrote:where DJT is right and the people who try to reign him in on his staff were wrong, is that the constant twitter tirades, repeating lies and attacks, works pretty well, at least with your base of support. consolidating a base of support within your party is important if you don't want to be challenged, investigated, impeached. the Mueller investigation is getting less and less popular, and Trump is cruising with Reagan levels of approval from Republican-identifying voters.

nail it to the church



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Postby jalapeño ranch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:01 pm

The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.
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Postby needanap » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:04 pm

Trump just retweeted the article about our galaxy being twice the size it was 2 years ago and equal to the size of Andromeda. And added "You're welcome."
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Postby viachicago » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:07 pm

the issue is Republicans learned a long time ago they can shape policy and win elections by blatantly lying and creating dumb soundbites. it dosent matter if something is true or not. if you say it in front of a camera and broadcast to a low information base that actively rejects science, reason, and critical thinking they will vote for you.

the other issue is democrats are completely spineless and will spend all day trying to pick apart the logical fallacies of a raving lunatic who is appealing to a base entirely on primal impulses.
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Postby mcwop23 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm

they’re also good at messaging that assures people that they’ll be able to keep their money/way of life and if they aren’t rich and are white they’re good at blaming others for all their failures at achieving it
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Postby powderfinger » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:12 pm

The coinage of "fake news" is an own goal of epic proportions by Dems. Great idea to adopt a phrase that can so easily be turned around by Republicans to perfectly express their decades-long campaign against the credibility of mainstream media.
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Postby viachicago » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:18 pm

powderfinger wrote:The coinage of "fake news" is an own goal of epic proportions by Dems. Great idea to adopt a phrase that can so easily be turned around by Republicans to perfectly express their decades-long campaign against the credibility of mainstream media.


and they created the entire notion of "mainstream media" to attack its credibility and lend credence to the notion that outside, fringe, or conspiratorial voices are the actual vessels of truth
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Postby v h g » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:19 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:The thing that annoys me the most about "fake news" is it was originally meant in regards to the blatant lies Trump kept telling before the election, then he took it and forced it to mean the opposite.

edit: I see that's been covered.


It was originally used to describe actual hoax news spread on social media
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Postby v h g » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:21 pm

When I say originally, I mean with reference to the 2016 election. Obviously the term had been around longer than that
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Postby Shalabi » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:29 pm

Mainstream media does not include the #1 cable news network apparently
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