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Postby tgk » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:21 pm

i thought about the possibility of having a D house and gaining a D senate but trump squeaking by on election night.
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:23 pm

prepare for that and more

it will get worse before it gets better
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Postby goldsoundz » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:25 pm

i kinda doubt the democrats will ever win back the senate
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Postby freezinseason » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:25 pm

to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not
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Postby tgk » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:26 pm

surprised tsa workers aren't striking yet, if they aren't getting paid might as well walk a picket line. stop these dc assholes from traveling anywhere
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:31 pm

freezinseason wrote:to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not


nobody's actually talking about stopping interference/disinformation/propaganda, which is to me the interesting thing
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Postby big zorb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:33 pm

i guess i assume that given the usa fucks with everyone's elections other countries probably have fucked with ours too

the reason that liberals get mad that people on the left aren't concerning themselves with russia "meddling" in the election is that if it's confirmed that russia "meddled" then none of them actually have to reflect on how they lost the easiest election ever

"ah you see russia cheated us....no i don't need to reconsider calling the cops on every black guy i see"
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Postby big zorb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:33 pm

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freezinseason wrote:to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not


nobody's actually talking about stopping interference/disinformation/propaganda, which is to me the interesting thing


well let me tell you what *i* think the interesting thing is...
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Postby big zorb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:34 pm

huh, russia influenced the election...yaaas abuela! eat all the bacon
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm

i think it's likely

a) ussr/russia had more important shit to worry about post-perestroika with 20 years of shitconomy
b) they weren't all that good at that / didn't have effective vectors or reason to go full throttle

it's not like a huge hack to look at the u.s. and realize man there's a huge faction of america that is impacted by globalization & modernization and that has a huge overlap with systemic lingering racism
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Postby Jimmy Firecracker » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:36 pm

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freezinseason wrote:to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not


nobody's actually talking about stopping interference/disinformation/propaganda, which is to me the interesting thing


murray st. wrote:how many levels of populism are you on
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm

zorb not tonight
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Postby tgk » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:37 pm

one of these days i'll be able to bury the 2016 election deep deep down inside me and never bring it back up.
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:38 pm

i have extra deep tree rings from 2008 and 2016
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Postby big zorb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:41 pm

Classic Dog Avatar wrote:i think it's likely

a) ussr/russia had more important shit to worry about post-perestroika with 20 years of shitconomy
b) they weren't all that good at that / didn't have effective vectors or reason to go full throttle

it's not like a huge hack to look at the u.s. and realize man there's a huge faction of america that is impacted by globalization & modernization and that has a huge overlap with systemic lingering racism


yeah and looking at all of this and realizing that 50%+ of the people who will vote have very inadequate media literacy
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Postby freezinseason » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:43 pm

Jimmy Firecracker wrote:
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freezinseason wrote:to be honest russia should be allowed to tamper in usa elections (if its true). you guys did it with their elections, so why not


nobody's actually talking about stopping interference/disinformation/propaganda, which is to me the interesting thing


murray st. wrote:how many levels of populism are you on


im a marxist, not a populist (whatever that is)
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Postby iambic » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:44 pm

I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.
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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 pm

iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


yeah i imagine they feel like they won on a scratcher
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Postby freezinseason » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:50 pm

iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.
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Postby brittle » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:52 pm

iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.

Yeah this has always been my take. Ru in 2016 was just like, "Democracy is bad and we'll prove it by perverting democracy"

I don't think they ever expected a campaign to go along with it so willingly, or how easy it was to bring millions of Americans along for the ride.
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Postby big zorb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:52 pm

iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


how much did putin pay you for this post you sack of shit
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Postby Cronos » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:53 pm

big zorb wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


how much did putin pay you for this post you sack of shit


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Postby Denise » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:54 pm

freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.


can someone tell freezin about the whole "fake news" narrative of the past 3 years?
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Postby palmer eldritch » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:58 pm

not it
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Postby Self Destructive Zone » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:58 pm

iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.

they can hardly be blamed that one of their minor, throwaway operations resonated so intensely with America's racist core.


that's a bingo!
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Postby iambic » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:00 am

freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.

like 90% of people in america are confused all the time. and you're fixating on the 2016 presidential election. russia promotes and encourages just about every single secessionist effort going in the west, including the californian and texan secession movements, which are motivated by wildly different politics! the general model is to just throw (negligible) dollars at anything that might be disruptive. one of those things just happened to be donald trump.
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Postby Cronos » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:02 am

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freezinseason wrote:
iambic wrote:I think Russia's strategy has just be to sow general discord and confusion, encourage factions on all sides, etc.


i dont think anybody is that confused. there's american racists out voting for american racists as usual. and there's lefties who are dissatisfied that they aren't given any good options. who's confused in this scenario? seems pretty similar to most elections in the usa.


can someone tell freezin about the whole "fake news" narrative of the past 3 years?


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Postby freezinseason » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:04 am

iambic wrote:
freezinseason wrote: 90% of people in america are confused all the time.


i still don't understand who's "confused" here. a majority racist country voted for a racist president, like they always do. they're pretty straightforward and clear about their politics.
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Postby iambic » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:05 am

if freezinseason thinks no one in america is confused, maybe he's french after all.
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