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Postby cam'ron hubbard » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:55 am

they do the best fruited sours. their sourcing is unparalleled. masumoto stone fruit, andy's orchard cherries. i've had westly, west ashley, many sante, de garde, HF and fuzzy and a lot of other SP, casa, rare barrel. i have had sours with off flavors from ale apothecary and de garde. i lived in austin for a time and jester king is great, but coveted beers like atrial simply don't live up to in fruit intensity to ms. pea split, a beer by cellador that made distro.
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Postby cam'ron hubbard » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:58 am

i received similar feedback having brought cellador to a sara bottle share, where ms pea split and gosesque cherry were tasted against sara club beers. give me their 100% oak-barrel fermented beers with heirloom fruit varietals, bottle-conditioned with their own house culture (as to not alter the flavor with more common bottle conditioning yeast). i'm not saying i'm an expert, but all of you should seek it out. drinking their pear saison now and it's magnificent. and an important factor to me, though others may have more tolerance to it, is the lack of diacetyl in any of their beers.
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Postby gazedo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:15 am

I have not had a cellador unfruited saison that can stand up to Sara cellerman / SP Tete / HF Flora / Casey seasons past god-tier of beer. Their fruited stuff is really good but when the fruit is the quality they use (same goes for Casey) it's not that hard to blow puree beers like West Ashley / westly out of the water. That isn't meant as a knock, they should be proud of their fruit sourcing. But I haven't had anything unfruited that hits the highs of the country's best saison producers.
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Postby warmjets » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:24 am

Haven't had an IPA in like a month. Feels good man. I'm a lagerhead now.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:28 am

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wario lopez wrote:a quick PSA: cellador is the best sour brewery in the country.


it's pretty good but I wouldn't go that far

Ale Apothecary for one is better

probably De Garde and Sante Adairius also

and Jester King still rips


Casey
Hill Farmstead
Cantillon

Cellador is good but probably not even top 10


Cantillon not "in the country" tho
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:31 am

I mean, I love Cellador. I have way too much of their stuff in my "cellar." More than any other sour/wild brewery. Cracked their spelt saison from 2017 the other day and it was 5/5. But I do think they rely too much on fruit, and that can make their beers taste kind of samey.

I will say I love the honey undertone that all their beers have from the priming. It's something I haven't gotten from most other sour breweries, even those who also prime with honey. Not sure how Cellador does it.
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Postby brent » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:33 am

speaking of sours, when modern times launched here, they shipped a few kegs of new atlantis along with some fruited variants...i was pretty shocked at the intensity of the black currant variant, probably one of the best wine forward beers i've ever had
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:34 am

warmjets wrote:Haven't had an IPA in like a month. Feels good man. I'm a lagerhead now.


Been drinking almost nonstop German pils lately. $6/4pk Bitburger from Trader Joe's, Konig, Veltins, Radeberger. Even got some Benediktiner Helles. Don't care if it's not the best of the best, it's just great easy drinkin' springtime beer. Brewed my own Helles, too, which I should be tapping in the next week or two.

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Postby easy » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:36 am

I haven't been drinking beer much these past few months. what's new in the easy-drinkin summer porch beer scene??? (even if u don't hav e a porch)
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Postby ecto » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:38 am

easy wrote:I haven't been drinking beer much these past few months. what's new in the easy-drinkin summer porch beer scene??? (even if u don't hav e a porch)

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Postby ecto » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:39 am

probably time for me to brew a galaxy session too..
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:39 am

ecto wrote:probably time for me to brew a galaxy session too..


do it and post in the homebrew thread

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Postby warmjets » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:45 am

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warmjets wrote:Haven't had an IPA in like a month. Feels good man. I'm a lagerhead now.


Been drinking almost nonstop German pils lately. $6/4pk Bitburger from Trader Joe's, Konig, Veltins, Radeberger. Even got some Benediktiner Helles. Don't care if it's not the best of the best, it's just great easy drinkin' springtime beer. Brewed my own Helles, too, which I should be tapping in the next week or two.

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Bitburger is fuckin' sick shit. $5.49 for a 4 pack of half liter tallboys. It's a staple in my fridge.

If I'm feeling fancy I splurge for a $16 sixer of Rothaus Pils. Which is just the best shit.
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Postby bachwards » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:47 am

Fullscreen wrote:the bells leaves of grass vol. I (ipa with german malt and hops) is hitting the dang spot right now.

I dug this a lot too, though the German hops weren't as distinctive as I was anticipating. Instead I thought it tasted like a slightly grassier good batch of Two-Hearted.
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Postby brent » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:49 am

i like bitburger a lot too.
we recently got a fresh shipment of melvin stuff here and their pils (pils-gnar) is very good, albeit a bit on the hoppier side a la pivo (i think it even uses the same saphir hops). before that i was crushing crooked stave/casey von pilsner which i still think is the best stateside pils i've had. and my go-to bar has a keg of firestone/casey stivo on deck...
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Postby Fullscreen » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:50 am

deadwolfbones wrote:
warmjets wrote:Haven't had an IPA in like a month. Feels good man. I'm a lagerhead now.


Been drinking almost nonstop German pils lately. $6/4pk Bitburger from Trader Joe's, Konig, Veltins, Radeberger. Even got some Benediktiner Helles. Don't care if it's not the best of the best, it's just great easy drinkin' springtime beer. Brewed my own Helles, too, which I should be tapping in the next week or two.

:awful:

Love what pipeworks is doing with lagers, they're putting out one of the better craft pils in the country imo.

(But yeah there's radeberger or urquell in my fridge pretty much all summer.)
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:52 am

that Crooked Stave pils is indeed very good but IMO Heater Allen, pFriem, and Bierstadt Lagerhaus are slightly better.

when it comes to the hoppier more American style Pivo and Prima are hard to beat.
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Postby brent » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:54 am

deadwolfbones wrote:that Crooked Stave pils is indeed very good but IMO Heater Allen, pFriem, and Bierstadt Lagerhaus are slightly better.

when it comes to the hoppier more American style Pivo and Prima are hard to beat.

i'll prob get to bierstadt lagerhaus this summer 8-)
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:55 am

I haven't had Suarez Palatine Pils yet but I'm sure it's up there too
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Postby gazedo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:04 am

deadwolfbones wrote:I haven't had Suarez Palatine Pils yet but I'm sure it's up there too


Suarez makes the best pilsners I have had.

And while heater allen and pfriem are good, I would give the nod to chuckanut over both. its really unfair how good the pacific northwest is at lagered beer.
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Postby warmjets » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:10 am

deadwolfbones wrote:I haven't had Suarez Palatine Pils yet but I'm sure it's up there too


oh god, highlight of last summer for me was going up there and having it on tap

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and their hoppy pale ales were INSANE
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Postby brent » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:22 am

someday i'll make a trek up to suarez
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Postby cam'ron hubbard » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:26 am

do you all like slow poured pils? seems to be popping up more and more places
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Postby brent » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:29 am

wario lopez wrote:do you all like slow poured pils? seems to be popping up more and more places

i had to google this, i'd never heard of it. sounds like you can do it at home with a can/bottle too?
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Postby cam'ron hubbard » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:35 am

here's one i recently got at cellador
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Postby Render » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:41 am

Yeah I haven't but seemed like everyone at GABF last year was losing their shit over Bierstadt's. One of my local brewers goes there when he goes (sometimes multiple times a trip).
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Postby warmjets » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:01 pm

Yeah definitely into that
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:05 pm

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Postby Hugh » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:25 pm

Someone I know gave me a box of beer mail filled with Trillium and Lawson's because they dumped the guy that sent it.
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Postby drudge » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:33 pm

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Best thing about St. Louis tbh.

For IPAs 2nd shift Little Big Hop is the best I’ve had here.

In NC for a few days this week. Tried a bunch of wicked weed sours. Not the best I’ve ever had but solid contributions.
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