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Postby death is my amigo » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:39 am

futurist wrote:what do you like about noir? i feel like that list is more of a "films that made an impact" list.

film noirs are the greatest thing to happen to film but are so often pigeonholed.


i think what i like about noirs is that it's just constant candy and treats. usually visually interesting, snappy dialogue, puzzley plots. but i don't know? i hadn't really thought about til you asked. on a psych level i think there's something very satisfying about conspiracyish plotting spooling order out of chaos that appeals to me as someone whose life is very unstructured.

so of that list i've seen brick, point blank, la confidential, chinatown, the long goodbye, in ascending order of how much i liked them. long goodbye might be outright my favorite movie if that helps, and i still liked brick a lot. in fact my favorite monologue in any of those might be the one at the end of brick. not included on that list but films that scratch the same sort of itch for me are the player, the nice guys, and ocean's eleven, all of which i really love.

bout to watch the limey right now, having just watched point blank :)

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Postby Plainsong » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:57 am

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Night Moves (2013)- Kelly Reichardt
Really liked this.
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Nightmare Alley (1947)- Edmund Goulding
Real solid noir.
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Nouvelle Vague (1990)- Jean-Luc Godard
Really liked this.
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Of Human Bondage (1934)- John Cromwell
This ruled, Bette Davis owned this like no one else.
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Postby nosebleeds » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:12 am

Back on the subject of neo-noirs, I'd recommend Miller's Crossing and the Outfit.

I saw the Outfit a few years back. It's a mean little movie with Robert Duvall and Joe Don Baker teaming up against the mob.

Oh yeah, Red Rock West with Nic Cage is a good one too.
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Postby Gnarls » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:18 pm

The Underneath is my favorite of the spate of 90s neo-noirs. It looks really good; an aspect of film noir that people love to forget!
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Postby deadbass » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:41 pm

A couple weeks ago I saw Still Walking (2008) for the first time and it has really stuck with me. I think it's one of my favourite movies.

I keep listening to this youtube w/ the cicadas and the film score and dialogue and it really evokes a feeling:
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Postby death is my amigo » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:43 am

logging recent watches:

kiss kiss bang bang - actually nothing about this movie has aged well. well kilmer and monaghan were fun at least. actually i started typing this as the movie was ending and holy shit this ending. wooooooof

blood simple - hm i would not have put this on a noir list. much more of like a psych thriller/suspense flick to me. didn’t do nearly as much for me as the others i’ve seen since i started this kick, or other coens.

point blank - ruled. a version of this where the lead isn’t some kind of superman would be a pretty ideal watch for me. pissed i watched kkbb tonight instead of the lorry which i have been lead to believe is in this vein

la conf - ruled. weird to see that 90s period look. why did movies look like then? everything is like.... kind of shiny. anyways totally besides the point i loved everything about this movie. maybe i should just revise this kick to ellroy adaptions
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Postby palmer eldritch » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:04 pm

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The Box (Kelly, 2009)

Rewatched The Box cause it's on netflix and I hadn't seen it in years and was wondering, as an unapologetic fan of Richard Kelly, how it holds up. Overall, pretty well, and idk it seems to me like this movie is a strong refutation of the notion that Kelly is a "bad" director who can only make a good movie by accident. Yes someone said that in another thread, I'm not trying to subtweet here, it's something I think is reasonable to wonder aloud. Here he's purposefully restraining himself, but honestly this is probably his most Well Made movie depending on what you think that terminology might mean. Everything is put together well, this isn't Vanilla Sky or something. He runs through what would be a pretty good remake of the twilight zone episode, and then has an hour of runtime to go, so he starts filling in the story with Richard Kelly shit and it's actually a fairly well done spiraling outward even if it likely doesn't make any real sense. Do science fiction movies have to make sense? Would it make them better? It's maybe not a truly great movie, but it's pretty good, I think.

also, the opening scene from Cabin in the Woods

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Postby jalapeño ranch » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:08 pm

As far as neo noirs go, I highly recommend The Silent Partner if you haven't seen it. An extremely overlooked movie IMO.
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Postby creedence tapes » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:32 pm

I gotta get in on watching some Richard Kelly movies again asap. Hes popped up a few times recently on here.

Specifically in the lynch thread it reminded me how much he aped him in Donnie darko. When I watched that a couple years ago I picked up on him doing that, which is something I totally missed when I was younger and watched all Kelly’s movies.

So now I’m thinking, damn now that my brains all fucked up from aging maybe I’ll vibe even harder with this idiots movies.
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Postby Mesh » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:00 am

I agree about The Box. Darko Director's Cut showed his weaknesses, Southland had his massive upside, The Box is a perfectly confident, assured storytell.
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Postby Julius Sumner Miller » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:36 pm

just watched Bisbee '17. This is one of the best movies I've ever seen.

I knew the premise, thought it would be interesting but a little corny. Instead I was blown away by pretty much everything.
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Postby relevee » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:37 pm

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les choses de la vie (1970) - claude sautet

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la ciénaga (2001) - lucrecia martel
impressive. a bunuelian social satire with amazing sound design throughout. also one of the most palpably humid and sweaty films i can think of alongside something like DAYS OF BEING WILD (1990)

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le petit criminel (1990) - jacques doillon

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rolling thunder revue: a bob dylan story by martin scorsese (2019) - martin scorsese
i could do without the wellesian trick of playing with the mythology but all of the restored '75 tour footage is total balm for me. could watch hours of that stuff

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in the shadow of women (2015) - philippe garrel
hard to find a fault in this. the mistress, the cheater, his wife and her lover. perhaps the closet garrel has come to hong sang-soo. the boorish and cruel male lead, the precise mis en scene and managing to be one of the few artists who can successfully shoot on digital yet harness all of the advantages of light and texture that b&w can do

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belly (1998) - hype williams
stunning. i can't think of anything in american cinema this singular in how uniquely formal and visually expressive this is. i can only think of someone like eastwood, ferrara or cimino who achieves such texture and emotion with how they shoot
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Postby antoine » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:12 pm

US (2019) - I liked this a lot more than Get Out. Seems like a much more assured and mature film in almost every regard. Just a really solid and interesting horror movie with great performances and it's beautifully staged and shot. i laughed a lot too. 8/10.
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Postby aububs » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:44 am

new godzilla movie was ok. had some nice monster imagery

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Postby aububs » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:45 am

and i managed to convince myself that dark phoenix was good for most of the runtime but it wasn't, it was bad
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Postby forest design » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:04 am

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stunning. i can't think of anything in american cinema this singular in how uniquely formal and visually expressive this is. i can only think of someone like eastwood, ferrara or cimino who achieves such texture and emotion with how they shoot


Yeah, watched this again recently as well and was pretty struck by how distinctive it is. Really wish he would make another feature
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Postby Plainsong » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:54 am

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One Sings, The Other Doesn't (1977)- Agnes Varda
Loved this.
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Pandora's Box (1929)- G.W. Pabst
This ruled, Brooks was awesome as usual, as was the rest of the cast.
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Red Road (2006)- Andrea Arnold
Brutal and compelling.
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Scorpio Rising (1963)- Kenneth Anger
Loved this, especially the imagery and music.
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Postby futurist » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:24 pm

Mesh wrote:
landspeedrecord wrote:mesh, what is even the point of making a post like that?


Now I'm not sure. I read futurist like he was saying that that list was not noirs or something. What was he saying, anyways? Sorry?

edit: also "basic" is not pejorative in my world, if that helps


no my point was only that noirs have a broad thematic scope, so i was curious what amigo specifically liked in a noir. noir is fun because in some circles it's a thematic descriptor, and in others it's aesthetic. a list like the one posted has some good films on it but i wouldn't go as far to say that if you like one film on that list you'd like the others.
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Postby futurist » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:25 pm

this is one of my favorite pieces of film studies

https://www.amazon.com/Film-Spaces-Mode ... 0674013468

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Postby mellowgold » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:12 pm

I saw dark Phoenix last week and I don’t know anything about comics but I do like the x-men movies a bit. I liked this a lot? I couldn’t believe how dragged it was. It’s kinda like the Vox Lux of comic book movies? Idk
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Postby Plainsong » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:21 pm

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Shoplifters (2018)- Hirokazu Kore-eda
Beautiful and heartbreaking all at once.
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Soy Cuba (1964)- Mikhail Kalatozov
Really liked this, the cinematography is goddamn amazing.
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Taipei Story (1985)- Edward Yang
Yeah, this ruled.
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:25 pm

Glad you got around to I Am Cuba! One of my favorite movies.
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Postby Plainsong » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:32 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:Glad you got around to I Am Cuba! One of my favorite movies.

So am I, it was well worth the wait, those american accents are so bad though haha.
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Postby bunejug » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:11 am

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dolor y gloria // pain and glory (2019) - pedro almodóvar

very restrained. feels like a thematic departure while at the same time being heavily self-referential. almodóvar heads will enjoy it. not sure if it'll be the best introduction for people unfamiliar with his films.


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wig (2019) - chris moukarbel

lady bunny is an icon. this is essential viewing for anyone interested in new york history, queerness, drag, etc.
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Postby OLD SAINT RIXX » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:30 am

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wig (2019) - chris moukarbel

lady bunny is an icon. this is essential viewing for anyone interested in new york history, queerness, drag, etc.

did you get bummed out at all while watching this that you couldn't live in that scene in the 80s or am i just a weirdo
i mean obvious 80s was also a terrible time in reagan's america and AIDS, but I even feel this way about Act Up meetings, etc, I wish I was there
maybe it's because it stands in such juxtaposition to the climate right now with corporate rainbow-washing everywhere and oversaturation, maybe i kinda envy that time when queers were still outcast freaks and that common enemy thing woman rabbit mentions once in this film. of course there are still common enemies still today, maybe more, but the community isn't really united against them or politically minded
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Postby futurist » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:30 am

RIXX you RUINED my JOKE


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Postby OLD SAINT RIXX » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:30 am

this was used sooooo well in the film omg

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Postby OLD SAINT RIXX » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:36 am

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Postby OLD SAINT RIXX » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 am

also i want to note in that TOOP above that obviously its coming from a place of extreme like, cis white gay privilege, i can recognize that while also feeling wistful about that time i guess, it's complicated!

i just recently had a conversation with my therapist who also does LGBTQ substance abuse research and he was telling me all about Gilead and PrEP and increasing HIV/AIDS rates in minority populations and it just seems like we've forgotten how to mobilize our community politically like in the ACT UP days, that common enemy thing, etc. i dont understand why Pride 2019 isn't completely aimed at awareness about how fucked up it is that we have the ability right now to end AIDS entirely and corporate greed prevents that from happening
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