warmjets wrote:You sound like a paranoid gun owner
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Eric Roberts wrote:Hipinion. Hipinion? Hipinion...is hip.
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endless dave wrote:I mean, frustrating or not, the “other option” is to not buy the thing that will, if ever used, much more likely kill someone they know or themselves than any sort of person threatening them
The idea that a gun will ever be of use in protecting yourself against a violent threat is a major part of the reason we’re here in the first place
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grace cathedral park wrote:mass shootings are state-sanctioned violence at this point
chad wrote:"How can I make this about me and also congratulate myself in some way" - basically every hipinion bro
big zorb wrote:i don't think being a victim of white nationalist gun violence is vanishingly small unless you mean like in comparison to 1858 or something. what is the way to personally deal with gun violence?
draw wrote:big zorb wrote:i don't think being a victim of white nationalist gun violence is vanishingly small unless you mean like in comparison to 1858 or something. what is the way to personally deal with gun violence?
There are under 100 extremist-related killings every year. Note I am not at all trying to diminish these tragedies and think we ought to take political measures to reduce their likelihood, but in a country with 320 million people, it's not something almost anyone should worry about personally happening to them. Similar risk assessment is what leads right wingers in the US to get whipped up into a frenzy about being blown up by ISIS or MS13 whatever.
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palmer eldritch wrote:you are much more likely to be killed by a car. or your own gun.
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big zorb wrote:endless dave wrote:I mean, frustrating or not, the “other option” is to not buy the thing that will, if ever used, much more likely kill someone they know or themselves than any sort of person threatening them
The idea that a gun will ever be of use in protecting yourself against a violent threat is a major part of the reason we’re here in the first place
i guess the same question to you as to draw: what is the personal response, then, to white supremacist-motivated mass murder?
Durham wrote:Viewed as terrorism and state sanctioned violence on a relatively small scale with the goal of deterrence, the solution presents itself as resistance to change in your behavior while simultaneously addressing the root causes, which is why making it harder to get guns is so important because it further deters what is still statistically minuscule (albeit globally aberrant) chances of white supremacist terror. Arming oneself in retaliation functions much like invading Afghanistan in 2001. It just leads to more violence
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draw wrote:There are a lot options for solving the social problem of gun violence because the underlying causes are heterogeneous, some combination of drug legalization & increased funding/attention to mental health.
endless dave wrote:Maybe “mental health” is maybe a bit too reductive if a way to call it but there is absolutely something to be said to explore and treat the issue of these Internet poisoned white 20 year olds finding solace in places like 8chan
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