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Postby jewels » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:22 pm

At least two people who were at Las Vegas have been at other mass shootings
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Postby southpaw » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:23 pm

I kinda like the tweet imbedded in there about how that perspective, as real as it seems, is kinda ahistoric navel gazing

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Postby Paul » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:53 pm

k_uger wrote:anyone ever stop and think about the Las Vegas shooting, which is one of the most mind bogglingly horrifying mass shootings we’ve had, and how quickly we just moved on from that

like that was insane

that would be as significant as 9/11 in any other country (see: Canada, Australia)


One of my FedEx drivers was shot in the leg and wears a brace he'll likely never remove now so I'm reminded of it weekly. It's insane how many lives these shootings affect. They actually chartered a private jet for him and another Canadian victim to get them in to our hospitals right after the shooting happened so they wouldn't get bogged down in the US system. FedEx and Insurance paid for all of it.
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Postby incoherent grunting » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:02 pm

uh excuse me but wikipedia tells me some states in the USA banned bump-stocks after vegas
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Postby Paul » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:05 pm

oh right I forgot some states got rid of the ability to hold the trigger down instead having to pull it multiple times changing nothing
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Postby incoherent grunting » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:13 pm

see, progress!
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Postby k_uger » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:15 pm

were any other shootings so thoroughly captured on video as Vegas?

in retrospect I kind of wish the photos of the SH children were released in some capacity, not that that’s remotely my call, just a naive fantasy that those children’s death could have some how made any sort of difference whatsoever in this monstrous country.
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Postby Paul » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:20 pm

k_uger wrote:were any other shootings so thoroughly captured on video as Vegas?

in retrospect I kind of wish the photos of the SH children were released in some capacity, not that that’s remotely my call, just a naive fantasy that those children’s death could have some how made any sort of difference whatsoever in this monstrous country.


I still think the response from the many paranoid gun owners would still be the same "you're not taking my guns and if you try I'm going to shoot you"

If anything the militarization of American police forces could be put toward it'd be taking assault rifles away from their owners, but half of the cops probably want personal assault rifles too.
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Postby jalapeño ranch » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:02 am

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Postby whatabout tim » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:07 pm

k_uger wrote:were any other shootings so thoroughly captured on video as Vegas?

in retrospect I kind of wish the photos of the SH children were released in some capacity, not that that’s remotely my call, just a naive fantasy that those children’s death could have some how made any sort of difference whatsoever in this monstrous country.


There is a large group of bigots that insists the children never existed. Releasing pics would just have those shitheads putting them on their dumbass signs and geocities pages.
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Postby whatabout tim » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:27 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/us-school-re ... n-11791409

I guess it was a matter of time until we started redesigning our schools instead of preventing the guns from being there in the first place. Great country we got going.
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Postby easy » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:01 pm

good podcast alert:

Know Your Enemy (Matthew Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell) had Patrick Blanchfield on to talk about gun culture in america and it's very, very good. episode's called "Gunpower"
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Postby Klint » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:04 pm

easy wrote:good podcast alert:

Know Your Enemy (Matthew Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell) had Patrick Blanchfield on to talk about gun culture in america and it's very, very good. episode's called "Gunpower"

Yeah, this was one of the best episodes of a pod I've listened to all year. Can't recommend it enough. Also, it's intensely depressing so just a heads up.
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Postby easy » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:04 pm

the term "liquidate" is used... often
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:22 pm

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Postby southpaw » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:37 pm

easy wrote:good podcast alert:

Know Your Enemy (Matthew Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell) had Patrick Blanchfield on to talk about gun culture in america and it's very, very good. episode's called "Gunpower"


Thanks for this rec

And to my earlier post pretty sure Blanchfields the one calling that tweet ahistorical navel gazing
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:15 pm

my sister-in-law is a teacher at her kids' private christian school and they are having some company called ALICE do active shooter training, for the staff now, and for the kids at some point in the school year

so frustrating to hear her talk about like "it sucks that we need this but" stuff when they are such Republicans like, uh bro stop voting to keep guns everywhere
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Postby sadville » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:10 pm

my colleague at work has a student who's a total gun bro, has shown me pictures of his assault rifles n shit

and i just wanna take a minute to thank the thread (Catullus, etc) for having talking points and statistics to be like bro u should reconsider this, and do it in front of a classroom full of students
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Postby Paul » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:52 pm

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Postby Paul » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:05 pm

how the hell are two vans with guns firing from them on the loose for this long
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Postby loaf angel » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:10 pm

Paul wrote:how the hell are two vans with guns firing from them on the loose for this long


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Postby shark week » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:13 pm

there was a 9 victim shooting at an Alabama high school football game last night

no one died though
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Postby Paul » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:14 pm

shark week wrote:there was a 9 victim shooting at an Alabama high school football game last night

no one died though


wow I didn't see this on the news at all
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Postby Durham » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:23 pm

I went through ALICE training
It was kinda harrowing but also like, it makes more sense than the traditional lockdown procedure

Of course it makes less sense than anything else
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Postby Debbie » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:25 pm

I can't do this anymore
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Postby shark week » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:30 pm

i did an Avoid Deny Defend two hour training through work

it was fairly informative

the focus seemed to be on examining and improving human rapid response/crisis behavior more than anything else
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Postby MikeS » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:45 pm

We’re going to the Oregon state fair on Monday and I don’t even want to go. It seems like an event that will eventually get shot up
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